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Old 05-02-2018 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Honestly rsv without dropping isn’t all that bad compared to a lot of other places and we have many guys that bid it on purpose so I don’t really know what the puma is so upset about.



In his defense. There were plenty of 15 yr FOs at USair that never got senior. Seniority is all timing and longevity doesn’t necessarily correlate to more seniority. It’s honestly a moot point for anyone hired here during growth. When we take our last airplane then people can start complaining as some will likely be junior for a LONG time. Right now everyone is moving unless you’re in ACY so quit the complaining.


You’re not wrong most other airlines don’t get reserve dropping but we gave it up. The flexibility is part of the reason I came here with reserve I could work around my wife’s schedule. We’ve lost about $1k a month from my wife having to change her schedule every month since the new contract. Also I upgraded the fall of ‘16 and I can only intermittently hold a relief line and I’m not based in ACY. As I said it is what it is, I’m not bitter about it but not being able to drop reserve is/was a big thing for my family.


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Old 05-02-2018 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
You’re not wrong most other airlines don’t get reserve dropping but we gave it up. The flexibility is part of the reason I came here with reserve I could work around my wife’s schedule. We’ve lost about $1k a month from my wife having to change her schedule every month since the new contract. Also I upgraded the fall of ‘16 and I can only intermittently hold a relief line and I’m not based in ACY. As I said it is what it is.


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You upgraded in 16, so now you are making an extra $5,000 a month on min guarantee but you are losing $1,000 because of your wife having to change her schedule? I’m not really good at math but it seems to me that you are ahead $4,000 a month not including the 11% DC.
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Old 05-02-2018 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyondawall
You upgraded in 16, so now you are making an extra $5,000 a month on min guarantee but you are losing $1,000 because of your wife having to change her schedule? I’m not really good at math but it seems to me that you are ahead $4,000 a month not including the 11% DC.


You’re not bad at math I’m sure that’s correct , but I very rarely flew min guarantee (less). As I said it is what it is m, but I would rather have waited and retained flexibility.


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Old 05-02-2018 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
You’re not wrong most other airlines don’t get reserve dropping but we gave it up. The flexibility is part of the reason I came here with reserve I could work around my wife’s schedule. We’ve lost about $1k a month from my wife having to change her schedule every month since the new contract. Also I upgraded the fall of ‘16 and I can only intermittently hold a relief line and I’m not based in ACY. As I said it is what it is, I’m not bitter about it but not being able to drop reserve is/was a big thing for my family.


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I’m not saying we should work 20 days a month. 15+ off is pretty industry standard. I’m am however getting tired of hearing people saying they came to Spirit for qol/flexibility. It seems that many wanted a part time flying job with a small paycheck and benefits. That’s not a career. That’s a hobby. Spirit is a career for most of us. And let’s be honest, most of us are hear because Spirit called first not because of some incredible qol that’s nothing more than urban legend.

For those with a working spouse I can certainly understand the issues as I dealt with that for a long time and it sucks. You either make it work knowing that’s what this job is or one of you quits. We all know the time off can be great in this industry but the schedule is erratic and doesn’t link up well with the rest of the world. If that is too much to bare I’d say anyone on 2nd yr pay or more is able to get by and it’s time to decide whose job is more important and who makes more money. The other quits and raises the kids or becomes a trophy wife/husband. The loss of that income sucks but I’d bet most are happier in that situation. Imo (which isn’t worth shiit btw) it’s much better for the kids as well. This career was designed to make enough to have a stay at home spouse to deal with the untraditional schedule. We’re not breaking the bank and yeah I think we could’ve gotten more. Fact is you make enough for her to quit and if she makes more I have no idea why you’re still here. I would’ve quit and started fishing everyday while the kids are at school.

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Old 05-02-2018 | 03:06 PM
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When are the road shows? When does voting open and close?

Can't wait to make Spirit Great Again!

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Old 05-02-2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by galleycafe

Can't wait to make Spirit Great Again!

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Make plane coffee great again!!
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Old 05-02-2018 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
Make plane coffee great again!!
Oooohhhh!

I like it.

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Old 05-03-2018 | 12:36 PM
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Waited to reply to see how far some angry folks were willing to go with assumptions and insults.
I NEVER EVER checker boarded and would not do it even if I lived on base, that was my choice.
As a bid line holder I valued the option of bidding RES and dropping occasionally without losing too much credit.
That was HUGE QOL we gave up!
My post's main focus was on unity or the lack thereof.
I strongly disagree with selfish attitudes, which weaken our union's position.
Assumptions of system "abuses" is not a valid argument to justify voting to totally give away RES drops.
That was weak!
It's not even PBS time yet...
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