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Old 05-30-2018 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by astral

Not having the benefit of a crystal ball, I have made tough choices in my aviation career, my most recent one is to retire here.

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Nailed it.



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Old 05-30-2018 | 10:29 AM
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Referencing JetBlue their rates only beat us on the Airbus, not the C Series or the 190. If they had a blended rate for 99-178 seats their rate would probably match or be slightly below. The devil is in the details.
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Old 05-30-2018 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
Referencing JetBlue their rates only beat us on the Airbus, not the C Series or the 190. If they had a blended rate for 99-178 seats their rate would probably match or be slightly below. The devil is in the details.


To be fair since all we have (right now) are airbus that’s what I’m comparing. All the details aren’t out (that I know of) but I’m pretty sure I also noticed a $13.00 an hour (retained) override for red eyes, higher ltd max then we got as well. Yes I know their health ins is worse then ours that’s why I’m interested to see what it will be. We will see how good it actually is when everything is released, but if anyone’s looking I’d look at JB before us.


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Old 05-30-2018 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
The best thing that could happen to us is we get bought by a real airline.
Amen!

Subjectively, the primary reason for not leaving, yet.^

PS: above bold statement does NOT include Indigo, Allegiant.
As neither are running a real Airline either.
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Old 05-30-2018 | 12:10 PM
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Lol, I dunno, I can’t live my life constantly comparing. If I did that I’d never be happy. We have nice airplane to fly (except for the POS NEOs, lol), pilot friendly Chiefs, good instructors that do a great job with what little tools they are given and we just signed a solid contract. Im glad JB is leap frogging us, I hope F9 does too.

Anyway, to the new guys, welcome!! Negotiations sucked but they are over. Good place to work with great crews! I can certainlyunderstand why some guys are so bitter but FFS, don’t give this place that much power/control in your life.

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Old 05-30-2018 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Lol, I dunno, I can’t live my life constantly comparing. If I did that I’d never be happy. We have nice airplane to fly (except for the POS NEOs, lol), pilot friendly Chiefs, good instructors that do a great job with what little tools they are given and we just signed a solid contract. Im glad JB is leap frogging us, I hope F9 does too.

Anyway, to the new guys, welcome!! Negotiations sucked but they are over. Good place to work with great crews! I can certainlyunderstand why some guys are so bitter but FFS, don’t give this place that much power/control in your life.

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Well said. Some people will never be happy or just can’t find happiness or always worried about what the Johnsons have.
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Old 05-30-2018 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
To be fair since all we have (right now) are airbus that’s what I’m comparing. All the details aren’t out (that I know of) but I’m pretty sure I also noticed a $13.00 an hour (retained) override for red eyes, higher ltd max then we got as well. Yes I know their health ins is worse then ours that’s why I’m interested to see what it will be. We will see how good it actually is when everything is released, but if anyone’s looking I’d look at JB before us.


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What are your chances of getting the Airbus or 190 over there as a new hire? There’s a really good chance you get stuck sitting in a 190 flying regional routes in the north east. I agree with most of your points but I wouldn’t pass on a Spirit job hoping JetBlue calls.


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Old 05-30-2018 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Lol, I dunno, I can’t live my life constantly comparing. If I did that I’d never be happy. We have nice airplane to fly (except for the POS NEOs, lol), pilot friendly Chiefs, good instructors that do a great job with what little tools they are given and we just signed a solid contract. Im glad JB is leap frogging us, I hope F9 does too.



Anyway, to the new guys, welcome!! Negotiations sucked but they are over. Good place to work with great crews! I can certainlyunderstand why some guys are so bitter but FFS, don’t give this place that much power/control in your life.



Flame away..........


What’s not to like about the NEOs? They stopped working during our negotiations and now they’re flying fine? Coincidence?


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Old 05-30-2018 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
What’s not to like about the NEOs? They stopped working during our negotiations and now they’re flying fine? Coincidence?

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Did you forget to add the sarcasm quote at the end or are you really that.......... never mind I'm sure you just forgot to add it.
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Old 05-30-2018 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LloydBraun
Well said. Some people will never be happy or just can’t find happiness or always worried about what the Johnsons have.
How can you be happy knowing that WE could have gotten something better and got sold out at the bottom of the 9th? I mean really?
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