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Old 10-16-2018, 08:40 PM
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Republic went through the same transition to offering a low premium plan when I was there. The old plan reliably dropped in enrollment every year. They literally called it the "Legacy" plan. The only people who kept it were families with very unusual medical circumstances who couldn't take the hit to the max out of pocket terms. Everyone else didn't need or want it. If you had other plans besides the Diamond plan before this year you absolutely should look at the Diamond plan and do the math to decide if it's better for you.
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Republic went through the same transition to offering a low premium plan when I was there. The old plan reliably dropped in enrollment every year. They literally called it the "Legacy" plan. The only people who kept it were families with very unusual medical circumstances who couldn't take the hit to the max out of pocket terms. Everyone else didn't need or want it. If you had other plans besides the Diamond plan before this year you absolutely should look at the Diamond plan and do the math to decide if it's better for you.
I like the monthly premiums on the diamond plan, however I feel like I could end up paying a lot everyone we go to an office visit. I believe it says 10% after your deductible is meet for the diamond plan. My daughter is going to the pediatrician a lot right now so I feel like all those bills can add up.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:29 AM
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I like the monthly premiums on the diamond plan, however I feel like I could end up paying a lot everyone we go to an office visit. I believe it says 10% after your deductible is meet for the diamond plan. My daughter is going to the pediatrician a lot right now so I feel like all those bills can add up.
I hear you. I've got a wife with (hopefully temporary) major health challenges and we'll likely max out the out of pocket costs for 2019.

However, one of the interesting differences between the B plan and the Diamond w/HRA is the fact that you have to subtract $3000 from the out of pocket max in the Diamond plan. So a quick comparison says that if you are going to max out your benefits with both plans your total out of pocket expenditure will be $4,500 with the Diamond plan, $7,950 with the A plan, $3,598 with the EPO, and $3,000 with the B plan that we can't get anymore. That's only a difference of $1,500 for the lower premium to make up. I haven't yet done the math to figure out the total yearly cost with premiums included but the Diamond plan has more going for it than you see at first glance.
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I like the monthly premiums on the diamond plan, however I feel like I could end up paying a lot everyone we go to an office visit. I believe it says 10% after your deductible is meet for the diamond plan. My daughter is going to the pediatrician a lot right now so I feel like all those bills can add up.
Company gives you $3000 toward your $4500 family deductible so you’re only on the hook for the $1500 and then 10% after that. And pay nothing while using that first $3000

If you have a healthy year and don’t go through the $3000 it rolls to the next year and you get another $3000 the next year which could cover your entire deductible and some or all of your 10% coinsurance.
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My daughter was born 5 months ago. I've gone to dermatologists, audiologists, at least 8 pediatrician visits and my wife had some complications as well.

we've used $250 from our HRA and about $270 out of pocket for prescriptions. That's it.
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My daughter was born 5 months ago. I've gone to dermatologists, audiologists, at least 8 pediatrician visits and my wife had some complications as well.

we've used $250 from our HRA and about $270 out of pocket for prescriptions. That's it.

Anyone have any comparisons between the A and diamond if you're going through something relatively high cost like a pregnancy and a surgery in the same year? I clearly understand the benefits of diamond if you're not expecting anything big in the following year but if you are expecting some high bills are you better to go with the A plan?


Also, how come nobody talks about the EPO? I know it's one network but I've been using the UHC network for 10+ years and I've never gone to a doctor or specialist that doesn't take the insurance. Is there some other kind of pitfall there I'm not seeing?
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Anyone have any comparisons between the A and diamond if you're going through something relatively high cost like a pregnancy and a surgery in the same year? I clearly understand the benefits of diamond if you're not expecting anything big in the following year but if you are expecting some high bills are you better to go with the A plan?


Also, how come nobody talks about the EPO? I know it's one network but I've been using the UHC network for 10+ years and I've never gone to a doctor or specialist that doesn't take the insurance. Is there some other kind of pitfall there I'm not seeing?
I have friends with the EPO and we compared my visits and what they would've cost with the EPO. Between the premiums being way higher, and there being a copay, the EPO would've cost me 1,000+ more this year. Coupled with the fact that anytime you go to a facility (hospital, urgent care, etc) they bill out multiple doctors, you're at their whim for using people "in network". I've heard many horror stories of going to an in-network hospital with in network doctors, but sent the Xray or the anesthesiologist isn't in network or what have you. That scares me off the EPO. Besides the cost.


I can't say too much regarding things like surgeries and whatnot, but so far I am very very impressed with the Diamond plan
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock View Post
Anyone have any comparisons between the A and diamond if you're going through something relatively high cost like a pregnancy and a surgery in the same year? I clearly understand the benefits of diamond if you're not expecting anything big in the following year but if you are expecting some high bills are you better to go with the A plan?


Also, how come nobody talks about the EPO? I know it's one network but I've been using the UHC network for 10+ years and I've never gone to a doctor or specialist that doesn't take the insurance. Is there some other kind of pitfall there I'm not seeing?
To me it seems like comparing the out of pocket max is the way to go. Knowing that the Diamond for a E + 1 is $5000 and company HRA is $2000 plus my rollover from unused funds this year I am looking at around only 2k out of pocket regardless of how much expense comes our way. Grand scheme of things isn't that bad especially with the affordable monthly premiums.

FWIW we are going through the same family building process as well.

(I could be looking at it completely wrong too)
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock View Post
Anyone have any comparisons between the A and diamond if you're going through something relatively high cost like a pregnancy and a surgery in the same year? I clearly understand the benefits of diamond if you're not expecting anything big in the following year but if you are expecting some high bills are you better to go with the A plan?


Also, how come nobody talks about the EPO? I know it's one network but I've been using the UHC network for 10+ years and I've never gone to a doctor or specialist that doesn't take the insurance. Is there some other kind of pitfall there I'm not seeing?
Insurance committee put out a very nice comparison a couple years back showing each plan in both healthy and catostrophic years. If it weren’t for the HRA contribution the diamond plan wouldn’t be worth it unless you just wanted to save money. With the company contribution you essentially erase the duductible risk for the exact same coverage and lower premiums. I think it won on every example given by the union with no sacrificing coverage.

Email them and see if they can send you a copy
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock View Post
Anyone have any comparisons between the A and diamond if you're going through something relatively high cost like a pregnancy and a surgery in the same year? I clearly understand the benefits of diamond if you're not expecting anything big in the following year but if you are expecting some high bills are you better to go with the A plan?
The post above by airsense shows the worst case scenario year.
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