yeah, Hopefully DL, AA, UAL all get amazing new contracts and no one will come here anymore and people will leave. I'm updating my apps again. No point to upgrade here anymore and sit reserve forever, my AA buddy makes more in total comp. as 4 year FO than our 6 year CAs and its only going to get further apart. This airline is really going to struggle to grow in the next few years, unless they really up the ante. but hey! here's a high five!


also, p.s. last article about spirit growth and new order did say that Uncle Teddy bear said announcement might not be this summer but Q4 this year....

 

also, p.s. last article about spirit growth and new order did say that Uncle Teddy bear said announcement might not be this summer but Q4 this year....[/QUOTE]


Which article?

 

What equipment is your friend flying?

 

I’m with you on PBS rigs and the other stuff, but this is such a small amount of money and easily explained by incompetence over malfeasance. And literally 99.9% of the pilot group missed nary a cent.

Some things deserve rants and some things deserve we rolls. This is the latter.

 

Your buddy may make more, but ask him about domestic work rules. AA rules are atrocious. I mean bad. I have friends who have “flowed”’ and, while they are happy and make more, are also pretty damn surprised by a lot.

When I got on here I was up front on AA out of PHX. I told him I was staring NK in a couple weeks. First thing out of his mouth was “excellent” they have tremendous work rules and QOL. He told me stuff that was hard to believe concerning AA domestic rules. He didn’t elaborate but said the International AA guys it was quite different for. I can’t speak for United or Delta, but I’m still certain you can’t manipulate your schedules and drop as freely as you do here.

I get it’s a legacy and it has more to offer equipment/flying wise etc, but to me the value here is your QOL and life style. My friends at Spirit have absolutely zero stress getting time off for anything. I have one friend that vacations 4/6 times a year. You drop one trip and have over a week off (worst case). There is a hell of a lot to be said for lifestyle.

To me, going to a legacy that offering $20-30K more a year, but not giving you the ability to drop and freely live your life isn’t worth it. I came here for QOL. Nearly everyone in my class did for the same reason.

Everyone has different priorities.

 

It’s A LOT more than $20-30k and we gave a lot of our qol in this contract. Spirit management loves the qol argument for paying us less.

 

If it’s incompetence is it acceptable? Were our healthcare overpayments for two years incompetence or theft?

The track record isn’t one of incompetence. It’s one of calculated moves to stick it to the pilots in an effort to save money no matter what. They do it to us, they do it to vendors. It’s a pattern. Am I going to lose sleep over 5 cents in per diem over a month and a half? No but it was contractually agreed upon and I expect follow through. It’s not about the per diem, it’s that it’s just one more thing and using the word “forgot” is irritating. They didn’t forget.

Update: PBS MOU is agreed upon without arbitration. Hopefully that’s a good sign. Now we get to see what’s in it.

 

Yeah. They forgot unless you really think someone was sitting in Miramar going “...Bwahahahaha, we’ll job them out if two to maybe three dollars!! Diabolical”. Sorry. That doesn’t pass muster. Other points you made? Yup. This? No.

Again. Eye roll worthy. Not worth a rant.

 

anyone with the Pos2B was massively overcharged, i am personally owed almost $1500

 

They better not tax it as additional income