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01-18-2022, 07:05 PM
#531
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Originally Posted by SSlow
Just wait until they eff up the economy again. Plenty of folks near the bottom of various seniority lists aren't gonna be so chipper about their recent career move.
01-18-2022, 07:41 PM
#532
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
Ummm…. Im pretty certain we were the first airline to go 200% back on the 28th-4th. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
All the Comms I saw from Jet Blue and United and others were after our announcement. Some got even better deals. That’s great and that’s how it works. Pattern bargaining and all. Kinda how Southwest set the bar during Covid and preventing furloughs, which was the same format we used.
It obviously worked (relatively speaking). I saw AA and others in the news that week. Within a day or 2 most every trip (primarily those Jan 1 and beyond) were no longer in OT.
I get it’s easy to claim nothing changes, but we 100% could have easily had another massive meltdown again, but instead of we took this approach and we didn’t. 🤷🏻♂️
All the Comms I saw from Jet Blue and United and others were after our announcement. Some got even better deals. That’s great and that’s how it works. Pattern bargaining and all. Kinda how Southwest set the bar during Covid and preventing furloughs, which was the same format we used.
It obviously worked (relatively speaking). I saw AA and others in the news that week. Within a day or 2 most every trip (primarily those Jan 1 and beyond) were no longer in OT.
I get it’s easy to claim nothing changes, but we 100% could have easily had another massive meltdown again, but instead of we took this approach and we didn’t. 🤷🏻♂️
01-18-2022, 07:44 PM
#533
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,184
Originally Posted by symbian simian
SWA started around December 15th, and just extended it to february 8th.
01-19-2022, 06:52 AM
#536
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,247
Originally Posted by SnowmanKiller
For me NK is less about the money and more about the fact they did less poorly than their competitors when it came to hemorrhaging money. What would the industry have looked like if there were not three bailouts? Furloughs or even BKs would abound.
For NB, legacies DO pay more...but what happens if a contract gets torn up? What about spending a year on furlough?
NK could furlough or BK too, of course, but I'm betting by the time their house is on fire the neighbors' will already be ash heaps.
Delta is saying they expect to return to profitability around March, which is good news, but NK was in the green since September. I am curious to see what their 4Q earnings are like.
For NB, legacies DO pay more...but what happens if a contract gets torn up? What about spending a year on furlough?
NK could furlough or BK too, of course, but I'm betting by the time their house is on fire the neighbors' will already be ash heaps.
Delta is saying they expect to return to profitability around March, which is good news, but NK was in the green since September. I am curious to see what their 4Q earnings are like.
01-19-2022, 07:00 AM
#538
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,247
Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
that was 3qtr profits.
01-19-2022, 07:25 AM
#539
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,673
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
I understand that, but we would have seen profit in Q3 if not for the meltdowns. I'll give management credit though, their new meltdown plan seemed to work over the holidays.
01-19-2022, 08:06 AM
#540
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Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 986
Originally Posted by Cyio
It was a shockingly origin solution lol. Who would have thought that paying more would entice people to work OT.
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