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Old 04-24-2020 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
My guess is the company didn't have a lot of choices but to dump the schedule and rebuild, to comply with the minimum service. So we can do routes like this:

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2...-columbus.html
I totally get that but why no TAJ? Maybe they didn’t want to deal with ALPA? I just don’t approve of giving half of the pilot group a free ride while the other half of the group has to stay in the trenches and earn their keep. I get things aren’t always fair but that’s just not right.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
I totally get that but why no TAJ? Maybe they didn’t want to deal with ALPA? I just don’t approve of giving half of the pilot group a free ride while the other half of the group has to stay in the trenches and earn their keep. I get things aren’t always fair but that’s just not right.
I agree, they should have the TAJ instead of the making their schedule blank. My response has to do with why they dump the schedule and rebuild it.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
as a commuter, and on reserve, i would be using my commuter clause for just about everything time I had an LCR assignment, (due to the reduce flight schedules) or sit in the crash pad for 2/3 of the month..
btw that’s not how the commuter clause works and even if it did wouldn’t get paid.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
btw that’s not how the commuter clause works and even if it did wouldn’t get paid.
You're not understanding my point. My commute went from 13-14 flights a day to 3-4 (that didn't get cut or canceled). Earlier this month, I had a day trip that I was assigned to, while on LCR. I had to use my CC because not only 2 but 3 of the flights that could get me to my report time was canceled, and I was deducted 4 hrs of pay. I can either roll the dice and hope the next time if I get called out. The flight I need is not canceled, and I have a long enough call out time, or go and sit in a crash pad for almost 2/3 of the month. That way I don't have to worry about using a commuter clause. Explain to me how CC works then? This is why many commuters took the VIL.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
You're not understanding my point. My commute went from 13-14 flights a day to 3-4. Earlier this month, I had a day trip that I was assigned to, while on LCR. I had to use my CC because not only 2 but 3 of the flights that could get me to my report time was canceled, and I was deducted 4 hrs of pay. I can either roll the dice and hope the next time if I get called out. The flight I need is not canceled, and I have a long enough call out time, or go and sit in a crash pad for almost 2/3 of the month. That way I don't have to worry about using a commuter clause. Explain to me how CC works then? This is why many commuters took the VIL.
you mentioned flight frequency not that there were legal flights for the commuter clause that got canceled. My bad
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Old 04-24-2020 | 07:32 PM
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I bid long call this month and for may just so i can stay off the grid. Guess i got fooled again for the second month and missed out lol. I will say that if one groups schedule get wiped and pay protected everyone should get the same. Reserve guys should not get left out of the fun with schedule clearing. Guess ill have to fly one day trip next month for free

There should be some sort of group grievances to come about tho.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
You're not understanding my point. My commute went from 13-14 flights a day to 3-4 (that didn't get cut or canceled). Earlier this month, I had a day trip that I was assigned to, while on LCR. I had to use my CC because not only 2 but 3 of the flights that could get me to my report time was canceled, and I was deducted 4 hrs of pay. I can either roll the dice and hope the next time if I get called out. The flight I need is not canceled, and I have a long enough call out time, or go and sit in a crash pad for almost 2/3 of the month. That way I don't have to worry about using a commuter clause. Explain to me how CC works then? This is why many commuters took the VIL.
It will be interesting how many pilots take the VIL going forward. Line Holders get paid to sit at home and tons of LCR lines.............
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Old 04-24-2020 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Skydreams14
I bid long call this month and for may just so i can stay off the grid. Guess i got fooled again for the second month and missed out lol. I will say that if one groups schedule get wiped and pay protected everyone should get the same. Reserve guys should not get left out of the fun with schedule clearing. Guess ill have to fly one day trip next month for free

There should be some sort of group grievances to come about tho.
If you could have held a line but purposely bid reserve for reasons you thought might benefit you; well that’s tough luck and on you. For others on reserve because that’s what your seniority holds; well that’s what your seniority holds. Good grief people, how else is this supposed to play out? Be happy you have monies being deposited in your checking account next month. We are experiencing unprecedented times, the company is trying to tread water while abiding the best they can with our CBA. No other industry I can think of is paying employees to not work. We are lucky; quit being petty and count your blessings.
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Old 04-24-2020 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
It will be interesting how many pilots take the VIL going forward. Line Holders get paid to sit at home and tons of LCR lines.............
Probably only commuters at this point. Now that we know the company is taking the govt bailout money there isn't any risk for furloughs/downgrades until Oct 1st, and therefore no reason to bid for a VIL unless you want to be 100% certain that you will not be working for a given month.
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Old 04-25-2020 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by OpentimeVirus
If you could have held a line but purposely bid reserve for reasons you thought might benefit you; well that’s tough luck and on you. For others on reserve because that’s what your seniority holds; well that’s what your seniority holds. Good grief people, how else is this supposed to play out? Be happy you have monies being deposited in your checking account next month. We are experiencing unprecedented times, the company is trying to tread water while abiding the best they can with our CBA. No other industry I can think of is paying employees to not work. We are lucky; quit being petty and count your blessings.
I guess it was bound to happen. After 25 posts, you eventually had to accidentally say something rational.
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