United v. Spirit
06-29-2021 | 11:36 AM
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06-29-2021 | 11:48 AM
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Yes, they are working on it.. yet I haven’t seen much of an improvement. Hard to find people who want to work in those conditions for the compensation being offered.
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06-29-2021 | 12:03 PM
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I personally have seen a lot of newbies out on the lines being trained. Give it some time.
06-29-2021 | 12:57 PM
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I’m sure the ramper issue will be fixed shortly 😏
06-29-2021 | 01:06 PM
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Long term growth.
I understand that we need to get our current staffing issues strait and focus on growing the company with the current order.
The reason I bring up future growth plans is for anyone considering employment at Spirit. From a numbers standpoint if someone is not hired with a seniority number below 3000 they might not ever make captain, or at least it will take a very long time based on 293 aircraft. The optional 50 might be used to replace aircraft coming off lease so there is no way to know what the aircraft count will end at.
So with that being said I wanted to know what everyone’s crystal ball was saying for long term airline growth perspective.
The reason I bring up future growth plans is for anyone considering employment at Spirit. From a numbers standpoint if someone is not hired with a seniority number below 3000 they might not ever make captain, or at least it will take a very long time based on 293 aircraft. The optional 50 might be used to replace aircraft coming off lease so there is no way to know what the aircraft count will end at.
So with that being said I wanted to know what everyone’s crystal ball was saying for long term airline growth perspective.
06-29-2021 | 01:18 PM
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btw...The things you mentioned above doesn’t put a stop to our operation. Not having a ground crew will. So paying them more will be top of the priority list. Not sure why that is so hard to understand.
06-29-2021 | 02:20 PM
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ramper issue is a simple fix. Idk why some people are making it into a bigger issue.
btw...The things you mentioned above doesn’t put a stop to our operation. Not having a ground crew will. So paying them more will be top of the priority list. Not sure why that is so hard to understand.
btw...The things you mentioned above doesn’t put a stop to our operation. Not having a ground crew will. So paying them more will be top of the priority list. Not sure why that is so hard to understand.
If you even knew how many applicants for ground ops dont even make it past the drug test. A ramper issues is far from a simple fix.
06-29-2021 | 02:44 PM
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I understand that we need to get our current staffing issues strait and focus on growing the company with the current order.
The reason I bring up future growth plans is for anyone considering employment at Spirit. From a numbers standpoint if someone is not hired with a seniority number below 3000 they might not ever make captain, or at least it will take a very long time based on 293 aircraft. The optional 50 might be used to replace aircraft coming off lease so there is no way to know what the aircraft count will end at.
So with that being said I wanted to know what everyone’s crystal ball was saying for long term airline growth perspective.
The reason I bring up future growth plans is for anyone considering employment at Spirit. From a numbers standpoint if someone is not hired with a seniority number below 3000 they might not ever make captain, or at least it will take a very long time based on 293 aircraft. The optional 50 might be used to replace aircraft coming off lease so there is no way to know what the aircraft count will end at.
So with that being said I wanted to know what everyone’s crystal ball was saying for long term airline growth perspective.
Couldn’t that same argument have been applied to every operation to ever exist including future airlines? Airlines place more orders, buy used aircraft, get acquired or buy certificates every decade.
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06-29-2021 | 02:59 PM
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I wouldn’t say I’m arguing a point per say. But if a candidate is looking at which airline to work at for instances, it would be in their best interest to have an idea of probability on upgrading. At spirit the only way someone will upgrade or move up in seniority is based on growth and at a legacy it’s likely going to come from retirements over growth.
It will be interesting to see how the applicant numbers look once we cross that 3000 pilot mark. Also interesting to see if we start losing people to legacies again like in the past once they realize upgrade might not happen based on current order size.
It will be interesting to see how the applicant numbers look once we cross that 3000 pilot mark. Also interesting to see if we start losing people to legacies again like in the past once they realize upgrade might not happen based on current order size.
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