Man, the good old days of hidden pictures in the cockpit!

company will pay for parking at any crew base, but only one location. If you commute from fll to MCO they will pay for either one but not both.

So what happened with ATL and MIA…

Our 1995 bidding software couldn’t handle a displacement bid, so they kicked it down the road.

JetBlue cancelled it

let’s not pretend otherwise

off the table for now, possibly forever.

I know they’ve got a merger to manage and another offer to consider, but there are more than a few people who were either going to move or going move on based on this, and now they’re all in limbo.

So is ATL just not happening now? I had some friends just get hired and planned on ATL :o

Last communication for the company is it is still happening, as is the displacements, as is the new trip pairings

Last communication from the union, same as company.

not really at all off the table. Said it’s still coming in the immediate future.

But internet misinformation is so FUN!

Making plans to move your residence to a new base is never wise until the crew lounge is completely finished.

Neither is running a displacement bid your software can’t handle.

Strange, DTW ORD LAS became junior and FLL became more senior for FOs in the latest what-If bid. Why would the company keep putting people in those bases if they plan to have the reduction bid?

I was under the impression that most of the reduction was to fill ATL. Clearly that’s no longer happening.

The airline owns 150ish airplanes that can mostly land themselves. Pretty cool technology. I don’t buy, that a technology flaw in bidding software, is unfixable by now. More to that story.

As the union has stated MULTIPLE times in emails that you have received MULTIPLE times, the company is forced to back-fill vacancies when FOs leave/upgrade. The company does not want to do this but is contractually obligated. I suggest reading Union communications in the future, it will answer a lot of your questions so you won't have to post them on APC for an anonymous stranger to answer.

They're contractually obligated to fill these spots until the displacement bid comes out again. All these poor new hires going to these bases will be wiped out.

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Have you not noticed is crashes/lags every IOT drop? Everything is a super manual process because the software was built in the early 80s. SABRE essentially has a monopoly.

Can we also talk about how ridiculously long it takes for Flica to process things when DOT opens? I know there's a lot of requests when DOT first opens but modern 2022 computers should be able to bang through them pretty quickly. I submitted a couple trades 3 hours ago and still processing.

Are you new to Spirit? But yeah I agree it takes a while from what I have heard

The first rule of first 24 hour DOT request lag is we don’t talk about first 24 hour DOT request lag.

Accept that no computer ever made can handle it, and never speak of this issue again.

18 hours now. Still "processing".

If its something different than a straight drop, add, or swap, it will require a scheduler intervention. Like a MFV drop, requires a scheduler to do it. So if its something besides a straight drop, add, or swap, I would call

With the new bids out, how quickly would a new hire be able to get ACY?

Call? Smartass. 🤭

Is DTW a pretty senior base? How are the pairings out of there?

CA or FO??

On the CA side, the top has some of our most senior pilots, the bottom is pretty junior. The middle is small….

Also, this will be one of the shrinking bases after Spirit’s master reshuffle to stop all irops is done.

Is that reshuffle still happening? I thought I heard rumors that ATL was paused maybe? Could be BS.

The company said it’s still happening

Have you heard or seen any official communication, regarding ATL opening as a base, since the proposed Blue buyout announcement?

All is quiet on the Western Front.

I suspect they’ll touch on this and other matters during the town hall.

fairly certain I have seen day trips out of there next month so while it may not be an official base yet I think our presence there may be expanding.

Ok, hilarious... And sounds exactly like this company I'm familiar with...

Possibly out of training. Nobody really knows since the company can't figure out of to run a vacancy/displacement bid right now.

The program at my regional was better than Spirit.

Spirit is better than my regional. (tm)

I don't know if I'm buying this "we can't get it to run the bid properly" thing. Flica is a reputable product that has been around for years and is used by many airlines. If it wasn't capable of running a displacement bid correctly, something like that would be well known.

It has to be customized for each specific contract. You’ve seen the chaos every open time drop, right?

You were the one last page talking about how long DOT takes to process, you really think a mass displacement bid would be easier than DOT? Flica (Sabre) sucks.

I would guess this is Spirit going to Sabre a few weeks before the displacement and saying they will be doing it before trying it out first, and then it fails. Reminds me of when Jyri turned on the new release software without a trial run and the system crashed and was asking guys to file their own flight plans.

Ready Fire Aim, the Spirit way

Then you don't know "Sabre Crew Disasters" very well.

FLiCA was once a pretty good product, small but trying to get better. Then they got bought by Sabre and stank up the place.

Did you guys ever have a BNA base? I thought I remembered some corporate functions were moving there?

No, and they shelves the plans to move corporate to BNA. Operations are split between FLL and MCO with a new HQ building being constructed near the FLL airport. Mergers not withstanding.