Bases
 

What’s the process to get to another base? How often can that be done?
TIA

There’s a monthly vacancy bid. You bid for what you want and hope your seniority can hold it. Right now, any base is able to get for a new hire in a couple of months.

Two days off or two day in a hotel to be provided by the company between assignments in different bases. Also, your vacation resets with each new base assignment. I.e., you lose whatever you bid for in the previous base and have to settle for whatever is left in the new one.

There are currently monthly vacancy bids. Not always the case tho. So get where ya want to be sooner rather than later.

Thanks guys.

So just a scenario, since I’ve heard FLL/DTW are the best places to get a line quick, could we bid first to a base closest to home, say DFW, to be in reserve, and then bid to FLL/DTW when I’m able to hold a line there and then move back to DFW once able to hold a line there?

yup definitely an option as long as we keep having monthly vacancy bids. We should for a while but you never know when they’ll stop. (Covid or any other thing could stop them whenever)

you can change every month, for now. like previous poster said things can change and covid indirectly froze base changes for long time.

And, should there be another ‘black swan’ event that seriously affects flying, you could not only be at a base that isn’t your actual base of choice, but back on reserve as well.

Thanks.
So safe to say, I should just bid my preferred base straight out of training, to play it safe. Even if reserve is longer there.

Depends on your own risk tolerance. There are people that bid where they can hold a line, dump their entire schedule and rebuild it out of open flying at their base of choice. Your option when you can hold a line. Just understand the risks if you are the one with no chair when the music stops…

Ok thanks guys! Great info.

why do people keep asking about an Albanian airport?

Tirana is beautiful this time of the year.

TIA will be a co-base with PRN and SKP.

(probably still an easier commute than ACY)

lga/ewr/PHL at our current pay rates is gonna be amazing to watch

Guaranteed upgrade while on probation, just like DL/MD80/NYC a few years ago.... Fastest way to get 1000 TPIC!!

(wish it was /s)

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who guessed PHL for a co-base?

Nobody because it’s 5 miles over the limit of 50 miles driving distance… They’ll have to amend the CBA.

100 km?

Filler

Looking from the outside in, what’s a co-base, will this be a crew base, and will it be junior?


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you think anyone here has any of those answers?


edit - except for the answer to “what’s a co-base”…. Which is “a base that is “co” with another base”

might have some more answers after tomorrow

A co-base is when you are required to report to two different airports in the same base. For example, AA NYC pilots have to cover LGA, JFK, and EWR. No one knows anything else.

Last negotiation they spent what was it 90-180 days spinning out wheels trying to make BWI/ACY/PHL one base and then probably all of Florida. What did we get after all that time? Current book

I hope all these new pilots have an idea what is going to be happening this time around.

I’m not following what you mean…. Our current CBA restricts co-domiciles to 50 miles driving distance and ACY-PHL is 55 miles (80ish km).

I understand their desire to do that and cover the airports, but what a logistical nightmare that would be building pairings, etc. It wouldn’t be that bad for me so long as they revisited the 3hr callout and provided parking at all of them..

Sorry not spending hours in my car wasting time and gas and mileage driving to multiple airports. Also who knows if they even wanted it. The point was they fight on stupid things like like this just to waste time and stall so we can’t talk compensation.

Yeah I agree. I was thinking more about having a way to bid only for trips out of a specific airport (just with multiple options in this case) and not driving all over the place each time. It could diversify the flying, esp in a place like acy, but it could also really shaft someone so maybe not the best idea. :)

At least 95% of the ACY pilots want a co-base with PHL. Maybe we should poll the ACY based pilots and up the mileage to 60 instead of 50. That really wouldn't hurt any other pilot in any other base.

Just wanted to remind you of the same words you used to remind me not long ago...

We had a co base at my regional. While you could bid for either airport, it still sucked, especially reserve covering two bases.

Reserves would still report to the Primary Base. So, if done correctly it would be good for line holders and not hurt reserves.

Can we end the open bargaining on a public forum and just send your requests to the union?

So what? What's wrong with saying we want the co-base?

Because most of us feel union doesn't listen to us.

You are saying (posting publicly) you want to loosen our CoBase language based on your unofficial straw poll from the pilots at our smallest base. You see no issue with that yet tell others to not post things online that management can read.

Sorry but getting a little "pot meet kettle" vibes here.

Thankfully we dont amend our CBA based on straw polls for a single base. Like it or not, things that happen at one base will never just affect one base.

Thankfully it doesn't affect any other base.

Until a LAS crew has an ACY overnight and has to do a 65 mile shuttle the next morning to stage for a PHL flight.

Again, we dont work in an outstation vacuum. You really think this is just as simple as ACY guys driving to PHL for day turns? You think IF they open PHL, its going to be North and South turns like ACY does now? If MIA becomes a cobase, you think that only affects FLL pilots?

Have you not flown to FLL or MIA in the last 6 weeks? Ground DH is already a thing and has been happening since mid October.

They can do that now. What's the difference? And MIA and FLL are within the current distance for the co-base language, so it won't affect it at all.