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Old 01-26-2022 | 09:35 AM
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Just looking at FLICA seniority numbers alone, there’s been LOTS of movement in the last month from attrition.
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Old 01-26-2022 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
if we are only loosing low single digits I will be shocked. We lost double digits in December alone. And about half the F/Os I’ve flown with this month have interviews or been hired elsewhere.
I’m guessing we’ll loose 50 in January, which is still growth, but a big problem.

Yesterday we were at 51. There’s still 5 more days left in the month.
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Old 01-26-2022 | 09:40 AM
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I keep hearing about CAs leaving, and if true they must be very very junior. I'm just inside 50% globally and I moved up 15 numbers based off the July 2021 seniority list to the current one. Several of those are retirements, and I'm sure a few have moved on but it's not some earth shattering number for those in the top 50%.

Seems like a lot of hollow talk to be honest. I'm not trying to argue whether someone with a good amount of seniority should stay or leave, but these are my observations.
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Old 01-26-2022 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I keep hearing about CAs leaving, and if true they must be very very junior. I'm just inside 50% globally and I moved up 15 numbers based off the July 2021 seniority list to the current one. Several of those are retirements, and I'm sure a few have moved on but it's not some earth shattering number for those in the top 50%.

Seems like a lot of hollow talk to be honest. I'm not trying to argue whether someone with a good amount of seniority should stay or leave, but these are my observations.
theres a lot of pilots above 50%…
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Old 01-26-2022 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ryan4sail
Yesterday we were at 51. There’s still 5 more days left in the month.
no problem with attrition here. Upgrades are 10 a month! Nothing to see no issues 😂😂😂😂
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Old 01-26-2022 | 10:04 AM
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starting to think FahQ2 is one of bendo's alternate accounts.
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Old 01-26-2022 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
starting to think FahQ2 is one of bendo's alternate accounts.
Because anything I’ve said is remotely close to being a management apologist.

Or….. just maybe, unlike yourself, I have been through too many down turns, major economic or geopolitical events, furloughs, and actual stagnation to get my feathers ruffled by a few dozen junior pilots jumping ship for legacy.

I’ve already said I don’t begrudge their leaving, but I’m not running around spooked screaming the sky is falling when the biggest impact any of this has had is that we are upgrading fewer captains this month than last month.

Grow up.
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Old 01-26-2022 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Because anything I’ve said is remotely close to being a management apologist.

Or….. just maybe, unlike yourself, I have been through too many down turns, major economic or geopolitical events, furloughs, and actual stagnation to get my feathers ruffled by a few dozen junior pilots jumping ship for legacy.

I’ve already said I don’t begrudge their leaving, but I’m not running around spooked screaming the sky is falling when the biggest impact any of this has had is that we are upgrading fewer captains this month than last month.

Grow up.
its pretty significant when we cut upgrades by 75% of what was originally planned for this year.
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Old 01-26-2022 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fahq2
because anything i’ve said is remotely close to being a management apologist.

Or….. Just maybe, unlike yourself, i have been through too many down turns, major economic or geopolitical events, furloughs, and actual stagnation to get my feathers ruffled by a few dozen junior pilots jumping ship for legacy.

I’ve already said i don’t begrudge their leaving, but i’m not running around spooked screaming the sky is falling when the biggest impact any of this has had is that we are upgrading fewer captains this month than last month.

Grow up.
hi bendo!!!! Everything is fine on the Line

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Old 01-26-2022 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Because anything I’ve said is remotely close to being a management apologist.

Or….. just maybe, unlike yourself, I have been through too many down turns, major economic or geopolitical events, furloughs, and actual stagnation to get my feathers ruffled by a few dozen junior pilots jumping ship for legacy.

I’ve already said I don’t begrudge their leaving, but I’m not running around spooked screaming the sky is falling when the biggest impact any of this has had is that we are upgrading fewer captains this month than last month.

Grow up.
Im not sure if its being an apologist per say. I think its more being blind to the realities around. One persons a few dozen is actually around 50 already this month alone not to mention there will be a month after this one and one after that and one after that.

By burying ones head in the sand though might be the appropriate response tbh ( not kidding ) instead of losing ones **** until they get the interview call somewhere else.

I mean hey according to Bendo ( possibly you ) the puerto rico thing was no big deal.
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