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Old 01-24-2022 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
i got a trip today over a guy with an entire year and a half less seniority because “he has one more day left than you”
And this is how we end up on a path to having a tense relationship with scheduling. Guys complaining about assignments that are black and white. So when I call after legitimately being assigned out of order it’s assumed I don’t know what I’m talking about and get dismissed.

Don’t make us look like the FAs. Know your contract and fly your legal assignments. If it’s not legal then yes politely question the methodology. I’ve never had a problem with scheduling here at spirit but complaining and questioning legit assignments because you’re either bitter or don’t know your own contract is the fast track to changing that relationship.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
And this is how we end up on a path to having a tense relationship with scheduling. Guys complaining about assignments that are black and white. So when I call after legitimately being assigned out of order it’s assumed I don’t know what I’m talking about and get dismissed.

Don’t make us look like the FAs. Know your contract and fly your legal assignments. If it’s not legal then yes politely question the methodology. I’ve never had a problem with scheduling here at spirit but complaining and questioning legit assignments because you’re either bitter or don’t know your own contract is the fast track to changing that relationship.

you’re taking a lot of liberties with my post. I know what the contract says. My usage of quotes may have been misleading and I apologize for that… it was my inner dialogue when I see a trip on my schedule and I start looking to see if it’s mine or not. I didn’t question the assignment. Or “complain” to CS. I didn’t even talk to them. I self notified.

I’m illustrating why it needs work and seniority means Jack if the other guys isn’t exact call out. Exact days. Exact everything. NEITHER of us had the exact trip length remaining in our RAP so that’s my beef.

i have a great relationship with CS, when we actually do talk…..although I try to never need to.

It’s just one persons opinion. Not meant to be the Algonquin round table. I may be in the minority and that’s fine. I’ve been wrong before. Anyway….you can have the last word.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
it’s in the cba.

it doesn’t make sense. We both had more day available than the length of that trip.
So you think that if there is nobody in the 3day bucket, they should get the most junior guy out of the 4/5/6 day bucket for a 3 day trip, not just from the 4day bucket I guess. I can see the company not wanting that, just because "adds complexity & inefficiency". I don't have to do reserve, (and when I do I want to be used, because commuter) so I really don't know how much of an improvement it would be, but I think there are way bigger issues than this with our reserve system, and that is just my opinion.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 07:43 AM
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So you think that if there is nobody in the 3day bucket, they should get the most junior guy out of the 4/5/6 day bucket for a 3 day trip, not just from the 4day bucket I guess. I can see the company not wanting that, just because "adds complexity & inefficiency". I don't have to do reserve, (and when I do I want to be used, because commuter) so I really don't know how much of an improvement it would be, but I think there are way bigger issues than this with our reserve system, and that is just my opinion.
youre not wrong. Like I said in my above post, I’m not really trying to argue I’m just illustrating one reason that I think seniority means nothing in our reserve system. What you were describing is certainly more efficient, I get that.

it’s all good :-) i’ve just spent so much of my aviation career on reserve, I’m just kind of over it. That’s all lol.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
youre not wrong. Like I said in my above post, I’m not really trying to argue I’m just illustrating one reason that I think seniority means nothing in our reserve system. What you were describing is certainly more efficient, I get that.

it’s all good :-) i’ve just spent so much of my aviation career on reserve, I’m just kind of over it. That’s all lol.
Yeah, that is one part were I got extremely lucky, over 20 years in total, and I sat reserve for a week or 2 a few companies ago (they really didn't do reserve, but would just extend you ), and a grand total of 4 months here, 2 of which were "voluntary", trying to get specific days off. And you are not wrong.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 08:04 AM
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People that are bailing, what are your thoughts on the 401k vesting timeline. Way I see it in the cba is 6 years for 100%.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Yeah, that is one part were I got extremely lucky, over 20 years in total, and I sat reserve for a week or 2 a few companies ago (they really didn't do reserve, but would just extend you ), and a grand total of 4 months here, 2 of which were "voluntary", trying to get specific days off. And you are not wrong.

im pretty jelly of that story lol. In a 10 year career ive spent 5 of those on reserve. LOL
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Old 01-24-2022 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GWY320
10 upgrades in March, per FLICA.
F9 will call your bet with 0 upgrades and raise you a base closure.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
F9 will call your bet with 0 upgrades and raise you a base closure.
Not going to call your bluff, because I suspect you have a section 19 hearing hiding in your hand.
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Old 01-24-2022 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
im pretty jelly of that story lol. In a 10 year career ive spent 5 of those on reserve. LOL
Timing. And I don't mean I timed it right. I got lucky with it. But it is part of the QOL we had here, little reserve, base of your choice, fast upgrade. If that growth slows down (even) more, and it turns into a SWA 3 years on weekend reserve (MCO), 9 year upgrades (OAK, and longer every where else), that QOL needs to come from better rules AND better pay.
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