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01-24-2022 | 12:49 PM

#71

FNGFO

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Originally Posted by Powderkeg

F9 will call your bet with 0 upgrades and raise you a base closure.

Go fish.

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01-24-2022 | 01:00 PM

#72

doublebed

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Originally Posted by 93Sierra

People that are bailing, what are your thoughts on the 401k vesting timeline. Way I see it in the cba is 6 years for 100%.

You are correct. As stephen a smith so eloquently said: we don’t care

01-24-2022 | 01:34 PM

#73

dualinput

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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH

you’re taking a lot of liberties with my post. I know what the contract says. My usage of quotes may have been misleading and I apologize for that… it was my inner dialogue when I see a trip on my schedule and I start looking to see if it’s mine or not. I didn’t question the assignment. Or “complain” to CS. I didn’t even talk to them. I self notified.

I’m illustrating why it needs work and seniority means Jack if the other guys isn’t exact call out. Exact days. Exact everything. NEITHER of us had the exact trip length remaining in our RAP so that’s my beef.

i have a great relationship with CS, when we actually do talk…..although I try to never need to.

It’s just one persons opinion. Not meant to be the Algonquin round table. I may be in the minority and that’s fine. I’ve been wrong before. Anyway….you can have the last word.

It read like you were quoting a response from crew scheduling. I apologize. I question them often because due to lack of training they do get it wrong often. However, when it’s my time I pack my bag and fly it with a smile.

01-24-2022 | 01:37 PM

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captnate702

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Originally Posted by dualinput

The latest weekly union email read like a complete **** show. Seems like pretty much nothing works at the airline and we are the glue holding it together.

Sounds like G4. What is your attrition looking like? We are having less than half of new hires show up to new hire training - let alone complete training and be released to the line before they jump ship.

01-24-2022 | 11:58 PM

#75

Rocinante

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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH

...my inner dialogue when I see a trip on my schedule and I start looking to see if it’s mine or not.

I do that too. It's like... "Again? I just flew last month."

01-25-2022 | 09:37 AM

#76

Yourrid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 93Sierra

People that are bailing, what are your thoughts on the 401k vesting timeline. Way I see it in the cba is 6 years for 100%.

I just left NK and I thought it was a 4 year vestment period? Either way, the new job is fully vested starting day 1 with 16% contribution... So Spirit's vestment period in no way swayed me since it's just a drop in the bucket over a 30 year career I have ahead of me.

01-25-2022 | 10:09 AM

#77

jetblueballs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 93Sierra

People that are bailing, what are your thoughts on the 401k vesting timeline. Way I see it in the cba is 6 years for 100%.

Yes it’s 6 years. Another thing that needs to be fixed. I think we’re the only airline with such a long vesting period(if any). I believe you are vested 0% until 2 years here at Spirit.

01-25-2022 | 10:11 AM

#78

Excargodog

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Originally Posted by jetblueballs

Yes it’s 6 years. Another thing that needs to be fixed. I think we’re the only airline with such a long vesting period(if any). I believe you are vested 0% until 2 years here at Spirit.

The first year you are scarcely making enough to worry about it in any event…

01-25-2022 | 10:14 AM

#79

JulesWinfield

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Originally Posted by captnate702

This is my understanding. I'm at 90+ hours for the month after this trip on reserve. We're thin on FOs.

01-25-2022 | 10:43 AM

#80

Yourrid

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Originally Posted by jetblueballs

Yes it’s 6 years. Another thing that needs to be fixed. I think we’re the only airline with such a long vesting period(if any). I believe you are vested 0% until 2 years here at Spirit.

I'm not sure many new hires are going to be that concerned with the vestment period. I didn't know about it until whatever day in Indoc. Pay, domiciles and upgrade times should be top priority to keep people interested. A longer vestment period on the 401k could be "insurance" for the company as they can use that money to fund the training for new FOs due to attrition.

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

The first year you are scarcely making enough to worry about it in any event…

Pretty sure I did 1% contribution for the entire time I was at NK because I couldn't afford any more!