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TransWorld 02-11-2022 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3370900)
McDonalds was forced to increase pay to $20/hr in some spots to get workers….McDonalds. So if Ronald McDonald can afford these raises out of necessity, no different.

My McDonalds went to kiosks except for the drive through and one counter. Six kiosks, two humans. Kiosks, after initial capital cost are $0 per hour. And those other workers they replaced now get $20/hr at 0 hrs = $0.

CincoDeMayo 02-11-2022 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3370981)
My McDonalds went to kiosks except for the drive through and one counter. Six kiosks, two humans. Kiosks, after initial capital cost are $0 per hour. And those other workers they replaced now get $20/hr at 0 hrs = $0.

Kind of a false equivalency. McDonalds didn’t go in and say “sorry to the 4 of you, we are letting you go for Kiosks. They just didn’t backfill those jobs with the high turnover for fast food. And there are plenty of McDonald’s and fast food restaurants with many employees working behind the counter, getting paid way more than ever before.

JoeFever1 02-11-2022 06:17 PM

It’s not really their choice right now in my opinion. They either pay or go under. There’s a going rate and that’s what will be asked for. And they don’t even really have time to fight it either. They aren’t dumb they knew this when they agreed to merge.

Halon1211 02-11-2022 06:45 PM

the New Spirit/Frontier colors revealed!!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZrR1CDO...dium=copy_link

Excargodog 02-11-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3370900)
McDonalds was forced to increase pay to $20/hr in some spots to get workers….McDonalds. So if Ronald McDonald can afford these raises out of necessity, no different.

What? You going for the hat trick on agreements? You got it.

And if inflation is going to continue at the present rate, we really need to think about indexing the pay scale to the CPI or some other index. Social Security does that, Military retirement does that. Heck, even bank lines of credit go for LIBOR plus however many points.

While I would like to think that inflation is going to mellow out after the supply chains get fixed, even just two years at 7.5% is a huge hit. Imagine if it were to last five years without renegotiation….

JulesWinfield 02-11-2022 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3370981)
My McDonalds went to kiosks except for the drive through and one counter. Six kiosks, two humans. Kiosks, after initial capital cost are $0 per hour. And those other workers they replaced now get $20/hr at 0 hrs = $0.

Don't be so quick to dance on their grave. The same thing will happen to pilots.

Halon1211 02-11-2022 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3371045)
Don't be so quick to dance on their grave. The same thing will happen to pilots.

the same engineers that made the 737 MAX are going to be the ones that make it happen, right?

JulesWinfield 02-11-2022 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3371055)
the same engineers that made the 737 MAX are going to be the ones that make it happen, right?

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset..._970_noupscale

This is what Amazon looked like 20 years ago when they were selling books on a new thing called the internet. Around the time this screenshot was taken, there were quite a few FEs on mainline aircraft. What happened to those guys?

Halon1211 02-11-2022 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3371062)
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset..._970_noupscale

This is what Amazon looked like 20 years ago when they were selling books on a new thing called the internet. Around the time this screenshot was taken, there were quite a few FEs on mainline aircraft. What happened to those guys?

They moved to a First officer position, then captain then retired and read books from Amazon after their retirement.

Aero1900 02-11-2022 09:03 PM

We need to get paid and get our 401ks stuffed before the robots take our jobs.


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