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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
This is kind of my worst fear second to a liquidation. Leave now and spirit ends up getting acquired when things get real bad and I end up very junior to my former self has a stayed and rode it out. Total dice roll.
Not sure Spirit will be "acquired" in whole. Even if so, because its a distressed situation, most likely a big staple job since its not a merger, but will be handled under fragmentation. One thing is for sure...if you went to UA, DL or AA and then that airline acquired NKs assets and some of those pilots were ahead of you, it is likely that they would not be able to bid wide body FO or CA slots until every pilot from the legacy had the opportunity to bid them. So yes some narrow body guy below you might end up ahead on the narrow body only, but you'd be riding the WB plane forever. Northwest Republic merger had a 30 year fence on the WB planes.

Good luck is all I can say. This isn't your fault and you are trying to make good decisions with imperfect information. But there are other airlines that will hire you and those airlines aren't that bad overall.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Not sure Spirit will be "acquired" in whole. Even if so, because its a distressed situation, most likely a big staple job since its not a merger, but will be handled under fragmentation. One thing is for sure...if you went to UA, DL or AA and then that airline acquired NKs assets and some of those pilots were ahead of you, it is likely that they would not be able to bid wide body FO or CA slots until every pilot from the legacy had the opportunity to bid them. So yes some narrow body guy below you might end up ahead on the narrow body only, but you'd be riding the WB plane forever. Northwest Republic merger had a 30 year fence on the WB planes.

Good luck is all I can say. This isn't your fault and you are trying to make good decisions with imperfect information. But there are other airlines that will hire you and those airlines aren't that bad overall.

Im too old to ever be a widebody CA
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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:24 PM
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The expidited appeal was approved. A ruling is expected in June. Thats a long time to wait and see what happens. I expect a lot of people will leave.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fumeevented
The expidited appeal was approved. A ruling is expected in June. Thats a long time to wait and see what happens. I expect a lot of people will leave.
Where is this info
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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fumeevented
The expidited appeal was approved. A ruling is expected in June. Thats a long time to wait and see what happens. I expect a lot of people will leave.
The appeal will be HEARD in June. Not a ruling in June.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowBus
The appeal will be HEARD in June. Not a ruling in June.
Geez, even worse.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 12:46 PM
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The appeal won't be successful anyway. There is a better chance of B6 pulling out of the deal in July while waiting for the appeal ruling. The appeal is nothing more then a distraction for the future bankruptcy
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Old 02-02-2024 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Why no delta?

Unrelated to delta but how old are you?
Can't deal with their pilot culture and I'm 38.
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Old 02-02-2024 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Not sure Spirit will be "acquired" in whole. Even if so, because its a distressed situation, most likely a big staple job since its not a merger, but will be handled under fragmentation. One thing is for sure...if you went to UA, DL or AA and then that airline acquired NKs assets and some of those pilots were ahead of you, it is likely that they would not be able to bid wide body FO or CA slots until every pilot from the legacy had the opportunity to bid them. So yes some narrow body guy below you might end up ahead on the narrow body only, but you'd be riding the WB plane forever. Northwest Republic merger had a 30 year fence on the WB planes.

Good luck is all I can say. This isn't your fault and you are trying to make good decisions with imperfect information. But there are other airlines that will hire you and those airlines aren't that bad overall.
McCaskill wouldn’t apply? I thought you couldn’t just staple anymore….
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Old 02-02-2024 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BusBoi
Can't deal with their pilot culture and I'm 38.
38 isn’t a spring chicken that’s for sure. But being middle seniority I can see the logic. Starting over at JetBlue seems hasty considering they are relatively young like us and not growing. Also, every legacy also has an NYC base.

I’ve heard this before about delta and “pilot culture”. With every legacy having an NYC base I can see putting them at the back of the line based on seniority demographics alone but culture? Is that really something anyone should consider when talking about a multimillion dollar career. Who GAF about culture. This job is about money and time off. Delta should be far ahead of JetBlue if going in as a NH
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