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Old 10-22-2024 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
If they want to poach then they can start offering choice of domicile and seat and longevity pay match. I’ll gladly go tomorrow.
Not the way it works.

CBA violation. And those already on the seniority list there would scream to high heaven.
And if someone offered that to newbies coming to NK you'd scream just as loudly.
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Old 10-22-2024 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Not the way it works.

CBA violation. And those already on the seniority list there would scream to high heaven.
And if someone offered that to newbies coming to NK you'd scream just as loudly.

Why would I care. Someone else’s pay doesn’t affect me. Seniority does
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Old 10-22-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
If they want to poach then they can start offering choice of domicile and seat and longevity pay match. I’ll gladly go tomorrow.
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Why would I care. Someone else’s pay doesn’t affect me. Seniority does
Because domicile and seat would be affected, of course.

But I wasn't really talking about you personally so much as a half of a seniority list of FOs you would be jumping over.
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Old 10-22-2024 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Why would I care. Someone else’s pay doesn’t affect me. Seniority does
Someone elses pay doesn't affect you? You must not know how contract negotations work...
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Old 10-22-2024 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Because domicile and seat would be affected, of course.

But I wasn't really talking about you personally so much as a half of a seniority list of FOs you would be jumping over.
I know that it's never going to happen, but would it really be such a bad thing if pilots with more flight experience and time invested in the industry were able to make lateral moves and go ahead of FOs who have considerably less experience?

It's the way pretty much every other industry in this country operates.

I know that a lot of legacy pilots look down on us, but at the end of the day we do the same job in the same airspace (WB flying aside).
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Old 10-22-2024 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Why would I care. Someone else’s pay doesn’t affect me. Seniority does
you should care because giving up leverage for nothing doesn’t help the group. unionism 101
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Old 10-22-2024 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
I know that it's never going to happen, but would it really be such a bad thing if pilots with more flight experience and time invested in the industry were able to make lateral moves and go ahead of FOs who have considerably less experience?

It's the way pretty much every other industry in this country operates.

I know that a lot of legacy pilots look down on us, but at the end of the day we do the same job in the same airspace (WB flying aside).
So I left the left seat at NK to go to a legacy, got back into the left seat at legacy after a short bit, in the exact same base NK said I was getting displaced out out.

Under this idea theoretical pilot who was 1 number below me in base that stuck around NK should get to jump me in senority (year 3) at my current airline because they waited things out even though I was senior to them back at NK (year 6)?
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Old 10-22-2024 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
So I left the left seat at NK to go to a legacy, got back into the left seat at legacy after a short bit, in the exact same base NK said I was getting displaced out out.

Under this idea theoretical pilot who was 1 number below me in base that stuck around NK should get to jump me in senority (year 3) at my current airline because they waited things out even though I was senior to them back at NK (year 6)?
Yes.

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Old 10-22-2024 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
So I left the left seat at NK to go to a legacy, got back into the left seat at legacy after a short bit, in the exact same base NK said I was getting displaced out out.

Under this idea theoretical pilot who was 1 number below me in base that stuck around NK should get to jump me in senority (year 3) at my current airline because they waited things out even though I was senior to them back at NK (year 6)?
And you have a problem with this why?
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Old 10-22-2024 | 05:14 PM
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Ah my bad I did know we were having a fume event.

Make sure to fill out that cabin odor form.
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