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fcoolaiddrinker 10-22-2024 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sieve (Post 3846498)
Nothing prevents this, because it has been the opinion of the NMB in the past that Allegiant, Frontier, and Spirit should be peers as far as pilot compensation is concerned.

Interesting because an arbitrator ruled in 2018ish that f9 peers were all domestic narrow body operators at that time when we won an arbitration. There was a loa, signed with republic for pay rates to snap up to that average when certain profitability metrics were met and of course indigo didn’t do that.
Point is different folks in the nmb can have different opinions. I’m interested in where you got that information? That that’s thier opinion? Is that you B Frankie?

Flyby1206 10-22-2024 03:58 PM

https://www.wsj.com/business/airline...googlenewsfeed

Sounds like it’s getting close for F9/NK

ShyGuy 10-22-2024 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 3845886)
https://simpleflying.com/breeze-airw...-merger-retry/


Is this gonna happen or what? why or why not?

If Trump wins, it's coming in 2025 :)

Lincoln Osiris 10-22-2024 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3846473)
Haha. Like I said, dude eats paint chips. Worse is he believes this is accurate

Best case scenario is an 1113 motion is filed by the company and the judge rejects it because the company did not show:

the authorized representative of the employees has refused to accept such proposal without good cause”

Spirit will say we make more than Frontier, Breeze, Avelo Allegiant and other lower paid airlines, so the 1113 motion should be approved


NK ALPA will say we make less than AA, DAL, UAL, HA, JBLU and Alaska, so the motion should be denied

Judge will decide. But there is NOTHING in code 1113 that allows a judge to increase pay. Besides the insanity of the notion, it isn’t the law. It’s either reject the CBA, or reject the motion.

Acording to my google searches a bankrupcy judge CAN increase pay.

Lincoln Osiris 10-22-2024 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3846510)
https://www.wsj.com/business/airline...googlenewsfeed

Sounds like it’s getting close for F9/NK

God I hope not.

Halon1211 10-22-2024 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3846511)
If Trump wins, it's coming in 2025 :)


as much as I hate our current Administration. I don’t think it will matter who is in office. It will for sure be approved. Plus now we can definitely claim “failing firm” defense.

The only thing we need to know now this time is how much of it turd the shareholders are going to get. (Less than the first time around.)

afterburn81 10-22-2024 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by covid19 (Post 3846097)
Well as a Frontier guy, I hope you swim or sink on your own. A merger at this point brings nothing but uncertainty and possible stagnation into the picture.

Ah yes. More of the same lol.

checkgear 10-22-2024 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3846536)
God I hope not.

Same. I’d rather roll the dice with chapter 11.

Halon1211 10-22-2024 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by checkgear (Post 3846543)
Same. I’d rather roll the dice with chapter 11.

why???


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TheRubberDucky 10-22-2024 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by gonyon (Post 3845886)
https://simpleflying.com/breeze-airw...-merger-retry/


Is this gonna happen or what? why or why not?

https://www.wsj.com/business/airline...talks-a7ee5912

"Frontier Airlines is exploring a renewed bid for Spirit Airlines, people familiar with the matter said, as Spirit continues discussions with bondholders over the terms of a potential bankruptcy filing.The two budget airlines have had recent discussions about a possible merger, though the people said the talks are at an early stage and that a deal may not come to fruition.If a deal between the two carriers is reached, it would likely happen as part of Spirit restructuring its debt and other liabilities in bankruptcy, the people said..."


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