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CatPilot1 10-23-2024 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3846636)
Yeah I can't think of many good reasons that Indigo would want to take it on without BK.

While BK can be risky with the new rules, if you go in with a merger plan and stakeholder buy-in it should go pretty smooth and quick.

They’ll lose the 2 billion worth of NOLs! Ever think of that reason!

Stayontarget 10-23-2024 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3845916)
I’ve talked to a bunch that said they would bail with a frontier merger because they doing like the model. I for one, would be very happy. See yall in San Juan!

They don’t like the model…that they are already in?

ERAUAV8R 10-23-2024 07:06 AM

Frontier Cons

paid less
day trips

Frontier pros

theyre not in bankruptcy
pilots don’t look like slobs

Spirit pros

Drop to zero

Spirit cons

They’re broke
image is broke


Stayontarget 10-23-2024 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R (Post 3846684)
Frontier Cons

paid less
day trips

Frontier pros

theyre not in bankruptcy
pilots don’t look like slobs

Spirit pros

Drop to zero

Spirit cons

They’re broke
image is broke

High credit day trips go most senior so that’s highly subjective

Pay is being negotiated and will not remain the same. We are asking for legacy rates and snap up clauses. Obviously not a guarantee in anyway.

Lincoln Osiris 10-23-2024 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by flyboyike (Post 3846681)
You also misspelled "hysteria."

Thank you for letting me know. That could have been disastrous!

Lincoln Osiris 10-23-2024 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3846691)
High credit day trips go most senior so that’s highly subjective

Pay is being negotiated and will not remain the same. We are asking for legacy rates and snap up clauses. Obviously not a guarantee in anyway.

Snap up is #1 regardless if its a stand alone CBA or JCBA. No more "next time". Snap up is now industry standard.

Halon1211 10-23-2024 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R (Post 3846684)
Frontier Cons

paid less
day trips

Frontier pros

theyre not in bankruptcy
pilots don’t look like slobs

Spirit pros

Drop to zero

Spirit cons

They’re broke
image is broke

I get it that spirits is broke, but every time I talk to somebody whose flown frontier they have nothing good to say. I would say both of our images are broke.

checkgear 10-23-2024 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3846735)
I get it that spirits is broke, but every time I talk to somebody whose flown frontier they have nothing good to say. I would say both of our images are broke.

Based on his username alone I wouldn’t take anything he says seriously.

CHPFLY 10-23-2024 09:28 AM

WSJ - Back at it F9NK
 
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deal...ts-2024-10-23/

CincoDeMayo 10-23-2024 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3846735)
I get it that spirits is broke, but every time I talk to somebody whose flown frontier they have nothing good to say. I would say both of our images are broke.

This is true. Sorry F9 boys but your reputation isn’t crapping gold over there either . Spirit was first so the name is synonymous with trash passengers, but let’s not act for a second that Frontier is Delta One over there.

Not a pi$$ing contest but both our pax have no legroom, but at least one has WiFi, and snowless boarding and deplaning.

Both products are outdated and it needs to go away.


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