Spirit Now Sure As It Emerges From Bankruptcy
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What exactly is the global market going to do with a bunch of ULCC configured A320s?
I thought it was expensive and time consuming to make these A/C more functional for the real airlines.
All that said, I think the leasing companies are in for a rough ride either way. Sucks to be them!
I thought it was expensive and time consuming to make these A/C more functional for the real airlines.
All that said, I think the leasing companies are in for a rough ride either way. Sucks to be them!
Europe and Asia have a lot of ULCCs with order-books, and even the European carriers that aren’t ULCC are still flying their narrowbody airplanes in ULCC configuration.
First/business class on short haul intra-Europe flights is so diluted, it’s like being on Frontier but with a little curtain between row 4 and 5.
Spirit’s big front seat is a private-jet experience compared to the Lufthansa narrow-body business-class experience.
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Clearly you don’t get out much.
Europe and Asia have a lot of ULCCs with order-books, and even the European carriers that aren’t ULCC are still flying their narrowbody airplanes in ULCC configuration.
First/business class on short haul intra-Europe flights is so diluted, it’s like being on Frontier but with a little curtain between row 4 and 5.
Spirit’s big front seat is a private-jet experience compared to the Lufthansa narrow-body business-class experience.
Europe and Asia have a lot of ULCCs with order-books, and even the European carriers that aren’t ULCC are still flying their narrowbody airplanes in ULCC configuration.
First/business class on short haul intra-Europe flights is so diluted, it’s like being on Frontier but with a little curtain between row 4 and 5.
Spirit’s big front seat is a private-jet experience compared to the Lufthansa narrow-body business-class experience.
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I disagree that the Europe first/business is not as a good as Spirit BFS. The service, food and overall experience is on a scale that Spirit doesn’t achieve with the BFS. The hot meals, drinks and snacks are well additions you don’t get on NK. Also the flight attendants on BA and LH seem to provide a more consistent level of service levels vs NK.
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more news will come in the next month or two. With up to 3M in holdbacks per day plus 2/3M loss on average per day plus consulting fees of about 165K from these groups per day the runway is short. Could be another pre package bankruptcy, or setting up for something else.
I don’t believe these groups would be hired if a liquidation was coming. That would not make sense to hire aviation strategist this late in the game for nothing.
in the end of the day, very few people have an actual idea of what will happen.
some backround for you on these groups:
PJT Partners is a boutique, advisory‑focused investment bank, highly regarded for its work in restructuring and corporate transactions. They deliver:
• Restructuring & Special Situations: Guiding companies through distress scenarios such as bankruptcies, debt reorganizations, recapitalizations, distressed M&A, exchange offers, and out‑of‑court solutions .
• Strategic Advisory & Capital Markets: Advising on M&A, capital raising, shareholder issues, and reshaping corporate strategy.
FTI Consulting is a global professional services firm with deep capabilities in:
•Turnaround & Restructuring: They help troubled businesses improve cash flow, negotiate loan covenants, restructure debt, manage liquidity, and lead formal reorganization efforts .
• Aviation-Specific Strategy: FTI offers tailored support in fleet optimization, operations stabilization, procurement, network planning, labor negotiations, and regulatory communications for airlines .
• Strategic Communications: Managing messaging across media, regulators, employees, investors, and unions—key during turbulent transitions
Seabury Airline Strategy Group — Commercial & Fleet Strategy
Seabury, combined with Airline Strategy Group, offers specialized aviation consulting:
• Network & Fleet Planning: Creating long‑term fleet deployment plans and route strategies with proprietary tools .
• Revenue & Distribution Optimization: Enhancing revenue through advanced pricing, sales strategies, direct-ticketing models, and optimizing ancillary income .
• Commercial Strategy & Operations: Providing advice on partnerships, strategic planning, commercial operations, M&A, and fleet/operational efficiency .
• Financing & Transactions: They advise on aircraft transactions, leasing, financing, restructuring, and balance sheet structuring specific to aviation assets .
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What exactly is the global market going to do with a bunch of ULCC configured A320s?
I thought it was expensive and time consuming to make these A/C more functional for the real airlines.
All that said, I think the leasing companies are in for a rough ride either way. Sucks to be them!
I thought it was expensive and time consuming to make these A/C more functional for the real airlines.
All that said, I think the leasing companies are in for a rough ride either way. Sucks to be them!
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