Spirt filed for Chapter 11 again
#941
Prime Minister/Moderator

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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
House, yes, probably gone.
Senate is possible but mathematically much harder. There are like six vulnerable seats (three on each sides), and the dems have to win all of those, plus one more to break the tie.
If the dems get both houses and impeach DJT they're going to create unintended consequences....
2028 would be a brave new world, with no DJT.
1) Lots of political drama and no congressional function. Even worse than now, which will turn off swing voters and mobilize the GOP base (especially with an impeached DJT as a martyr).
2) If they succeed, Vance will be running as an *incumbent* in 2028, and will have time to at least pivot away from foreign wars and towards the economy. That's actually not who the knowledgeable dems actually want to run against in 2028, especially if a Kamala or AOC type figure hijacks their nomination. They'd much prefer DJT be in office and go off on a tangent and endorse Baron or somebody else out of left field before the GOP primary.
Interesting times.
#942
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2008
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I've been watching closely.
House, yes, probably gone.
Senate is possible but mathematically much harder. There are like six vulnerable seats (three on each sides), and the dems have to win all of those, plus one more to break the tie.
If the dems get both houses and impeach DJT they're going to create unintended consequences....
2028 would be a brave new world, with no DJT.
1) Lots of political drama and no congressional function. Even worse than now, which will turn off swing voters and mobilize the GOP base (especially with an impeached DJT as a martyr).
2) If they succeed, Vance will be running as an *incumbent* in 2028, and will have time to at least pivot away from foreign wars and towards the economy. That's actually not who the knowledgeable dems actually want to run against in 2028, especially if a Kamala or AOC type figure hijacks their nomination. They'd much prefer DJT be in office and go off on a tangent and endorse Baron or somebody else out of left field before the GOP primary.
Interesting times.
House, yes, probably gone.
Senate is possible but mathematically much harder. There are like six vulnerable seats (three on each sides), and the dems have to win all of those, plus one more to break the tie.
If the dems get both houses and impeach DJT they're going to create unintended consequences....
2028 would be a brave new world, with no DJT.
1) Lots of political drama and no congressional function. Even worse than now, which will turn off swing voters and mobilize the GOP base (especially with an impeached DJT as a martyr).
2) If they succeed, Vance will be running as an *incumbent* in 2028, and will have time to at least pivot away from foreign wars and towards the economy. That's actually not who the knowledgeable dems actually want to run against in 2028, especially if a Kamala or AOC type figure hijacks their nomination. They'd much prefer DJT be in office and go off on a tangent and endorse Baron or somebody else out of left field before the GOP primary.
Interesting times.
#943
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2024
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No one’s removing Trump from office. It’s practically impossible to get 2/3’s of the senate to do that. I don’t want to get political. I was just making point that it’s in everyone’s best interest including Trump’s to get this Iran situation under control and oil back to reasonable prices.
Democrats will like gain ground in mid terms, but 2028 election year isn't in the bag for them by any means. The entire democratic platform and identity is "Stop Trump" and there's nothing else that they really stand for. There will be no more Trump in 2028, so they need to find an identity, and find it quick.
#944
They aren’t going to. Either this Iran things settles down fast or Spirit is in for a world of hurt and probably shuts down. This is most likely going to cause the Democratic party to take over Senate and House in midterms and could cost the Republicans next presidency. No one is happy now. Keep gas cheap and it keeps everything reasonable.
We are dominating the battlespace, as expected, negotiating isnt simple, and we have a future to be even more optimistic about. As long as the Ds keep touting orangeman bad, dragging out shutdowns, and siding with Iran, well, mids will be just fine.
#945
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Plenty of people are happy and plenty are struggling; same same. Again, gas was higher priced in 2022 and 2023, but no one was screaming in the media about $6.49 for 89 in CA...short term economy shock due to world events.
We are dominating the battlespace, as expected, negotiating isnt simple, and we have a future to be even more optimistic about. As long as the Ds keep touting orangeman bad, dragging out shutdowns, and siding with Iran, well, mids will be just fine.
We are dominating the battlespace, as expected, negotiating isnt simple, and we have a future to be even more optimistic about. As long as the Ds keep touting orangeman bad, dragging out shutdowns, and siding with Iran, well, mids will be just fine.
High gas prices raise the cost of everything. That will cost the current party the elections. Hopefully that’s enough motivation for Trump to get this under control.
#946
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Even I don’t agree with that. People have really short memories. I saw a Trump sticker on the gas pump pointing at price that said, “I did that.” Reminded me of the Biden sticker that said same thing.
High gas prices raise the cost of everything. That will cost the current party the elections. Hopefully that’s enough motivation for Trump to get this under control.
High gas prices raise the cost of everything. That will cost the current party the elections. Hopefully that’s enough motivation for Trump to get this under control.
#947
That/It/Thang
Joined: Aug 2020
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Even I don’t agree with that. People have really short memories. I saw a Trump sticker on the gas pump pointing at price that said, “I did that.” Reminded me of the Biden sticker that said same thing.
High gas prices raise the cost of everything. That will cost the current party the elections. Hopefully that’s enough motivation for Trump to get this under control.
High gas prices raise the cost of everything. That will cost the current party the elections. Hopefully that’s enough motivation for Trump to get this under control.
#948
New Hire
Joined: Aug 2024
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Plenty of people are happy and plenty are struggling; same same. Again, gas was higher priced in 2022 and 2023, but no one was screaming in the media about $6.49 for 89 in CA...short term economy shock due to world events.
We are dominating the battlespace, as expected, negotiating isnt simple, and we have a future to be even more optimistic about. As long as the Ds keep touting orangeman bad, dragging out shutdowns, and siding with Iran, well, mids will be just fine.
We are dominating the battlespace, as expected, negotiating isnt simple, and we have a future to be even more optimistic about. As long as the Ds keep touting orangeman bad, dragging out shutdowns, and siding with Iran, well, mids will be just fine.
#950
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
We're dominating the battle space like no one has ever seen and Trump's imaginary negotiations are way ahead of schedule. This is why the strait remains closed. It's called asymmetric warfare and Iran holds all of the cards. You are clearly a very sophisticated political thinker. I'm impressed.
But that doesn't solve the short-term SoH problem, while there *are* ways to address that, it wasn't apparent what the plan is from the State of the War address.
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