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Old 01-10-2026 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999
In the current predicament, operational performance needs to be perfect all the time. Time is running out. NK needs to show creditors and any potential buyers that it can be a stellar performing company. That has not happened over the last two weeks when it needs to happen. Nobody has made a move to buy and performance has not been good overall. These are two things that the next DIP payment requires. Crossing fingers that NK will survive the next 30 days.
it’s hard to perform in that fashion when you trim every dollar from the operation that you can and then you cut front line employees pay during the holiday season when most of them think they’re losing their jobs anyways.
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Old 01-10-2026 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
it’s hard to perform in that fashion when you trim every dollar from the operation that you can and then you cut front line employees pay during the holiday season when most of them think they’re losing their jobs anyways.
Then it sounds like you've already given up.
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Old 01-10-2026 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999
In the current predicament, operational performance needs to be perfect all the time. Time is running out. NK needs to show creditors and any potential buyers that it can be a stellar performing company. That has not happened over the last two weeks when it needs to happen. Nobody has made a move to buy and performance has not been good overall. These are two things that the next DIP payment requires. Crossing fingers that NK will survive the next 30 days.
Unfortunately time ran out a long time ago… too many will just continue to cash out sick time before they leave anyway. This is the final nail in the coffin. All the reserves that toed the line in years past are all gone. Of the people left planning to “ride it out” many are close to retirement, use NK as some kind of part time gig, extremely low time, or are people who have cheated the system for years and want to keep doing it. Not the ideal workforce from a management perspective. ALPA still seems like they are in screw the company mode which won’t help. Every week more and more are gone. This problem is only getting worse as legacy hiring picks up again at a massive pace.
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Old 01-10-2026 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Stankhunt42
Unfortunately time ran out a long time ago… too many will just continue to cash out sick time before they leave anyway. This is the final nail in the coffin. All the reserves that toed the line in years past are all gone. Of the people left planning to “ride it out” many are close to retirement, use NK as some kind of part time gig, extremely low time, or are people who have cheated the system for years and want to keep doing it. Not the ideal workforce from a management perspective. ALPA still seems like they are in screw the company mode which won’t help. Every week more and more are gone. This problem is only getting worse as legacy hiring picks up again at a massive pace.
100% this ^^^^. I think we will see attrition hit over 300 this month, that will be almost 8% of the airline that’s left. And everyone leaving will start burning that sick time.
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Old 01-10-2026 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999
In the current predicament, operational performance needs to be perfect all the time. Time is running out. NK needs to show creditors and any potential buyers that it can be a stellar performing company. That has not happened over the last two weeks when it needs to happen. Nobody has made a move to buy and performance has not been good overall. These are two things that the next DIP payment requires. Crossing fingers that NK will survive the next 30 days.
No one is buying us.

AA is in full debt reduction mode.
UA hates us.
DAL wouldn’t be caught dead with us.
WN doesn’t want 115 Broke Dick NEOs.
B6 was Denied
HA and AK are entering the honey moon stage
Allegiant is a Travel Company
Avelo is furloughing.
Sun Country is to small.

And then there is Frontier, the ULCC that hasn’t had a contract in 900 days and is also hemoraging money.

Some say Indigo, but Franke already has his hand in 4 sh!tyy ULCCs, he doesn’t need a 5th.

Our only real shot was JetBlue…..but hey………..”This One’s for you!”
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Old 01-10-2026 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH
No one is buying us.

AA is in full debt reduction mode.
UA hates us.
DAL wouldn’t be caught dead with us.
WN doesn’t want 115 Broke Dick NEOs.
B6 was Denied
HA and AK are entering the honey moon stage
Allegiant is a Travel Company
Avelo is furloughing.
Sun Country is to small.

And then there is Frontier, the ULCC that hasn’t had a contract in 900 days and is also hemoraging money.

Some say Indigo, but Franke already has his hand in 4 sh!tyy ULCCs, he doesn’t need a 5th.

Our only real shot was JetBlue…..but hey………..”This One’s for you!”
Come on Breeze has a better chance of buying Spirit than Avelo does lol
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Old 01-11-2026 | 03:36 AM
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The fleet now is majority CEO and the NEOs left don’t have powdered metal issues.
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Old 01-11-2026 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH
No one is buying us.

AA is in full debt reduction mode.
UA hates us.
DAL wouldn’t be caught dead with us.
WN doesn’t want 115 Broke Dick NEOs.
B6 was Denied
HA and AK are entering the honey moon stage
Allegiant is a Travel Company
Avelo is furloughing.
Sun Country is to small.

And then there is Frontier, the ULCC that hasn’t had a contract in 900 days and is also hemoraging money.

Some say Indigo, but Franke already has his hand in 4 sh!tyy ULCCs, he doesn’t need a 5th.

Our only real shot was JetBlue…..but hey………..”This One’s for you!”
No one hates or wouldn’t be caught dead with Spirit, it’s that what they have to offer isn’t worth the time and expense of an acquisition. The good news is that those who are hiring really like the Spirit pilots and they have been getting hired in large numbers.
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Old 01-11-2026 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH
No one is buying us.

AA is in full debt reduction mode.
UA hates us.
DAL wouldn’t be caught dead with us.
WN doesn’t want 115 Broke Dick NEOs.
B6 was Denied
HA and AK are entering the honey moon stage
Allegiant is a Travel Company
Avelo is furloughing.
Sun Country is to small.

And then there is Frontier, the ULCC that hasn’t had a contract in 900 days and is also hemoraging money.

Some say Indigo, but Franke already has his hand in 4 sh!tyy ULCCs, he doesn’t need a 5th.

Our only real shot was JetBlue…..but hey………..”This One’s for you!”
You must have missed the part about Volaris/Viva Aerobus merger announcement and forgotten about the previous merger attempts.
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Old 01-11-2026 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
The fleet now is majority CEO and the NEOs left don’t have powdered metal issues.
Not true. We have 111 aircraft in service.

52 A320 CEOs
15 A320 NEOs
23 A321 CEOs
21 A321 NEOs.

Many of the 320s and a handful of the 321s still need to address the AD, it’s just a ways out. Bendo said it would last till 2031.
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