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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 4024960)
your first 2 points would have been completely moot if Biden/Buttigieg had not sued to stop the merger. The blame may not rest solely with the previous administration, but they were the certainty the biggest factor in the merger getting shot down.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 4024980)
Except that if that admin wouldn't have sued, there would have been a line of plaintiffs doing that.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 4024980)
Except that if that admin wouldn't have sued, there would have been a line of plaintiffs doing that.
What airline mergers have been stopped by a lawsuit not brought by the federal government? who would have had standing to sue that would not have benefited from the merger? who sued to stop AS/HA, or SY/G4, or any of the legacy behemoths? the only people who wanted that merger to fail were the legacies and the Biden administration. And from what I could gather at the time, it was so they could set a precedent to use against big tech companies |
Originally Posted by FormerNK
(Post 4024927)
You can claim that it was Biden’s fault, but yet again, here are some facts:
A Reagan appointed judge applied the law (The Clayton Act, if I remember correctly) and blocked the deal. When asked on the stand if NK was in trouble (flailing firm), TC testified that it was not a flailing firm. We were in financial trouble long before B6 made their offer and derailed the long planned F9 merger attempt. You can blame the previous administration all day long, but facts are facts! |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 4024980)
Except that if that admin wouldn't have sued, there would have been a line of plaintiffs doing that.
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Can someone explain why the extra "restricted cash", mandated by the December 2025 extension of the credit card processing agreement with US Bank, is suddenly gone?
Nov filing: 586 cash + 205 restricted cash Dec filing: 272 cash + 591 restricted cash Jan filing: 610 cash + 212 restricted cash Feb filing: 560 cash + 219 restricted cash It appears the company moved the restricted cash back to unrestricted cash again? If US Bank still had their approximately 380 million restriction, cash on hand would be down to 180 million (minus losses for March and April). This definitely changes how long the company will be able to operate. No wonder US Bank want it liquidated. |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4025020)
The fact is that it was the previous administration who took time out of their busy day of going after parents who complain to their PTAs to take this to Federal Court where the judge had no choice to rule the way they did. That is the fact. I do not think the current administration would take this to court. As a matter of fact I know they won't.
So either way, no merger would've happened with Spirit and JetBlue. Who knows where'd they'd be now though. |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 4025002)
doubtful
who would have had standing to sue that would not have benefited from the merger? the only people who wanted that merger to fail were the legacies and the Biden administration. And from what I could gather at the time, it was so they could set a precedent to use against big tech companies Clayton Act specifically allows private parties to enforce and seek injunction to block a merger, so I bet AA/DL/UA would have sued if DOJ didn't. Any person, firm, corporation, or association shall be entitled to sue for and have injunctive relief, in any court of the UnitedStates having jurisdiction over the parties, against threatened loss or damage by a violation of the antitrust laws. |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4025022)
As what happens with every merger in every business. So not an excuse at all.
The person to blame is TC with his "Spirit has a path to profitability" BS, which is why the judge blocked the distressed carrier argument. We might be flying SpiritBlue right now if TC would have had the humility to say we are going to be out of business in a year if this does not go through. |
Originally Posted by flier320
(Post 4025031)
Can someone explain why the extra "restricted cash", mandated by the December 2025 extension of the credit card processing agreement with US Bank, is suddenly gone?
Nov filing: 586 cash + 205 restricted cash Dec filing: 272 cash + 591 restricted cash Jan filing: 610 cash + 212 restricted cash Feb filing: 560 cash + 219 restricted cash It appears the company moved the restricted cash back to unrestricted cash again? If US Bank still had their approximately 380 million restriction, cash on hand would be down to 180 million (minus losses for March and April). This definitely changes how long the company will be able to operate. No wonder US Bank want it liquidated. The bad news is that Spirit looks to be burning $2M a day according to the February MOR and probably a lot more now because of fuel prices. Spirit can't just burn down to $0 because of minimum liquidity covenants which are independent of restricted cash. Its highly likely that Spirit's unrestricted cash could be down to its "liquidity covenants" which is why all the talk about shutting down. Another huge problem is that there are probably a large number of book-aways because of all the warnings of a shut down, so people are not booking on Spirit and its just going to accelerate. |
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