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Originally Posted by Stankhunt42 (Post 4024763)

When you dedicate your life to a company for years you tend to care even after you have moved on.

If you moved on, you should.... Move on. Your "caring" words doesn't seem to be welcome, nor providing solace to the pilots that still remain there.

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Originally Posted by Stankhunt42 (Post 4024759)

What blows my mind is even after the debate on how many tens of millions of dollars Spirit has lost this month and every month over the last several years, all the chief pilots leaving including the system chief, the ALPA leadership gone, investor after investor pulling out, planes/assets gone, and now even the media getting on board. There are still people reading all this who aren’t ready to retire saying it will be fine. Not only that but militant about how great their QOL is, and how stupid everyone that left is. Absolute bananas.

They decided to ride it out and tune out the noise. The company is either going to merge, make it on its own, or go out of business. If you’re riding it out, not much to do other than go to work and let it run its course.

I believe the company will eventually liquidate. That being said I don’t want to see that happen. Tens of thousands of innocent people will lose their jobs through no fault of their own if that happens. You would have to be pretty messed up to want to see that happen. Have a little empathy. Airlines in dire stress have turned it around in the past.

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 4024796)

If you haven't covered your ass at this point, you can not claim no fault of your own

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Originally Posted by flier320 (Post 4024803)

If you haven't covered your ass at this point, you can not claim no fault of your own

Thats essentially my point.

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Originally Posted by AirportJunkie (Post 4024603)

Seeking government aid for high fuel prices GTFOH 🤣

I think TRUMP will say "you're fired". I cant see him agreeing to bail out NK. I guess we will find out next week. I hope that NK can somehow survive this tho.

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Originally Posted by BlueJuicer17 (Post 4024863)

I think TRUMP will say "you're fired". I cant see him agreeing to bail out NK. I guess we will find out next week. I hope that NK can somehow survive this tho.

I could see them trying to frame it as putting a company out of business and hurting others, causing job loss, and hurting people (voters) that need help affording flights which will pander to his sworn enemy the Democratic Party. Not that I agree or disagree just seeing that as an argument they may wield.

If you give money to spirit due to high fuel prices then you better give it to every other airline and company that’s affected by fuel prices also. This is a dumb but I guess desperate ask from NK.

time to close it up.

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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 4024868)

If it was even true to begin with I am assuming the reported “rumored ch. 7 by the end of the week” may have been delayed for this last ditch effort.

Your last sentence though. Not nice.

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Originally Posted by BlueJuicer17 (Post 4024863)

I think TRUMP will say "you're fired". I cant see him agreeing to bail out NK. I guess we will find out next week. I hope that NK can somehow survive this tho.

Here is the DOT response when they were asked about it. Looks like it could be politically advantageous and save jobs, while helping preserve low fares.

“We're monitoring the situation surrounding Spirit.

As you know, Spirit's financial difficulties stretch back to its first bankruptcy in 2024 and the failures of the last administration.

When Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg blocked a proposed Spirit/JetBlue merger in 2024, their DOJ bragged it was "a victory for U.S. travelers who deserve lower prices and better choices." If American consumers were faced with one fewer ultra low cost carriers, they would obviously disagree.”

Hypothetically If the government was willing to give NK a check what would the numbers on that check be?

Assume this Is a one time interest free loan with a 20 year term.