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I tell them if they feel so unsafe they should go fly Southwest.

It's been a couple of quarters at least since they last killed someone.

That usually shuts them up.

You should not let these instances get you down. Besides the ad lib from comedians (Spirit Execs must love it anyway - no such thing as bad press), the rest is just pure ignorance.

Your average John or Jane Q. Public is so out of touch, so naive, sheltered, oblivious and desensitized to reality - their pets should "walk" them. You see it in the terminals, on the roadways, in restaurants and grocery stores: They walk like zombies. Danger shocks them into even more of a daze - to the point of paralysis. On the highway, they will faithfully follow the car in front of them right into a crash - because they're not paying attention. People are so caught up in the "suburban rat race" they've forgotten to look up (or around) - and think critically - they are walking victims.

So, to hear someone complain about an airline, or any product for that matter, is par for the course - they have nothing better to do.

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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1813331)

I'm embarrassed by the low class embarrassments we have at our hotels, and I'm talking about our own crews.

Want to change the image?? Stop being a cheap MF on overnights. The reason why hotel crews hate us? Cheap bastards.

CAs that won't break a buck out for the van driver. I am still amazed when I see this, seriously?!?! I see some hand a handful of lose change over. You know you're on a 4 day, get some singles or bum one from the other pilot and get him back on the next tipping round.

Tipping poorly is 1 thing, tipping poorly on the meal amount AFTER the discount is even worse.

I was thinking that most of this was from FAs, who are overall the worse with the above mentioned issues along with "I need a fridge" mania at the checkin desk, but as we stay at different hotels more and more now, seems to be a pilot issue too.

We can't do much to change the public image of the company outside of doing our job in a safe manner, but we can control how hotels view us. Don't want to be "those guys," so don't be those guys.

I totally get you. I can't blame though flight attendants for asking for a fridge and bringing their own food. I think it's good they do that. They are being financially responsible. It looks annoying when we check in but if you had one of their paycheck you would probably do the same. But what bothers me more are guys not tipping or tipping poorly.

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Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1813331)

Funny you mentioned this. We get Into Boston the day of the blizzard and literally at the front desk for 20 minutes because the Flight attendant NEEDED,ABSOLUTELY NEEDED a ****ing fridge.........

It was really aggravating. We had to shuffle around rooms while guests where waiting because she needed a fridge.

Sorry, it's inexcusbale. I bring all my food on triips,even a 4 day and don't need a fridge. Canned fish/chicken, microwaveable rice etc........

Whats even more annoying is having to pay for the FAs dinner and alcohol because their credit card gets declined........it's ok they, they can call their credit card companies on their IPhone 6 to realize they maxed out their limit and haven't paid I. Two months. Absolutely embaressing...............

While I'm on a rant. Nothing ****es me off when a CA asks if I want anything at McDonalds and I ask for a coffee and he takes my dollar..........like really? I buy you a coffee at Starbucks, you don't offer me di-k but you take my dollar for coffee? Cheap f----

it's nice flying with the younger CAs, they seem to be on the same page and aren't anywhere near as cheap as the guys on the top of the payscale

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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1813350)

I think it's embarrassing when you spell embarrassing wrong. I miss you meatballs...

Now go buy me a coffee!

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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1813350)

Is this the same guy who sells his uniform replacement shirts to FOs? Haha.

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Originally Posted by RonnyK320 (Post 1813354)

I think it's embarrassing when you spell embarrassing wrong. I miss you meatballs...

Now go buy me a coffee!

You want embarrassing ? It took me 6 years to get a 4 year degree at Rutgers and I can't spell "embarrassing" correctly, lol.

My spelling is so awful that autocorrect rarely has suggestions for me :)

What I'm about to say will probably **** some people off but here it goes

We deserve our shi**y reputation. I know many people don't give a rats ass about cleaning planes, and shi**y customer relations at the ticket counter and gate "as long as the check's clear" but IT MATTERS. It will eventually affect profits. We have an underlying cultural problem at this company. It's the reason we have a**holes wearing black and gold and about the hundred other variations of the uniform. Why shoes are unshined, uniforms are not fitted, shirts are not ironed and some don't even bother to shave. Many just don't care about being classy or about the customer experience at all. It's the f yu get mine mentality.

Until we as a group are ready to own it and take responsibility for it, our reputation will not change and the second question after "who do you fly for?" will continue to be "don't you want to work somewhere else like ------?"

It starts with giving a sh*t. Company needs to clean the g damn fkng airplanes, especially the lavs. Smile at customers. Be helpful. Be courteous to hotel folks. Demand excellence. Customers should go away feeling good not like they just got f'd over and disrespected. No more excuses