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Old 02-06-2011 | 06:47 AM
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Farva wants a "liter of cola"
...do we have liter of cola?
Old 02-06-2011 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
But how can you say this? "They decided that rather than having to JRM and/or cancel a ton of flights the first three weeks of March it was better to draw the flying down a bit (500 hours). "
Do you seriously believe that they would cancel approximately 40 round trips just because they are afraid that each trip could cost another $800 in pilot costs? I suggest that any canceled flying is the result of marketing re-analysis. They told us about it hoping we would blame it on the "selfish".
I am not saying that, it is what I was told by management. We could argue all day whether or not the reasons they gave are truthful , or if there lies more to the story. In the end, it really doent matter, and its only 500 hours.
Old 02-06-2011 | 03:46 PM
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500hrs... heck, that's only a little over twice what some pilots have credited in a month at NK;-)
Old 02-06-2011 | 04:33 PM
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500hrs... heck, that's only a little over twice what some pilots have credited in a month at NK;-)

Yeah, they get 250 hrs credit for working 80, you get 80 hrs credit for working 80.

1. How does their actions affect YOUR paycheck?
2. Which one is the dim bulb?
Old 02-07-2011 | 02:48 AM
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If you don't know the answer to #1, then YOU are the dim bulb.
Old 02-07-2011 | 04:22 AM
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I don't know the double super secret number to call. I don't worry about what other people make $$ nor do I equate $$ with IQ....

Enjoy your life
Old 02-07-2011 | 08:14 AM
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Enjoy your life
I will, at the beach. Enjoy working 'til 65!
Old 02-07-2011 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by captscott26
If you don't know the answer to #1, then YOU are the dim bulb.
The problem here is that there is no concrete answer. The "labor" answer is that the OT flier is hurting someone else. The "200%" answer is that is does not.

The SWA answer is that it does not. I choose the SWA answer because I make $150K a year to Captain a 145 seat bird and my bud the SWA Captain makes over $300K to drag around only 137 revenue producing seats.

SWA has straight time OT. 150% OT and more. I think Voluntary JA does pay 200%, BTW. I don't hear
ANY pilot at SWA beotching about another SWA pilot hurting another pilots income. Senior lance Cpt's not withstanding.

You believe that it hurts you. I showed a concrete example of a carrier that it works to everyone's advantage. But I'll concede that the answer, for any management other than Herb Kelleher/Colleen Barrett/Gary Kelly, is somewhere in the middle.
Old 02-07-2011 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by captscott26
I am not saying that, it is what I was told by management. We could argue all day whether or not the reasons they gave are truthful , or if there lies more to the story. In the end, it really doent matter, and its only 500 hours.

Sorry, I didn't see any quotation marks.
Old 02-07-2011 | 09:06 AM
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I will; never been afraid of working.

Enjoy the beach..... by yourself.

BTW: Don't get burnt!
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