Spirit of NKS
08-19-2011 | 12:57 PM
#2801
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 949
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From: A320 CA
Yup, couldn't have said it better
08-19-2011 | 04:00 PM
#2802
Banned
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
From: A320 CA
Is there anyone out there ill-informed or delusional enough to believe that this sham recall effort is REALLY about Flight Loss Pay? What a canard.
This recall is about a small group's Special Deals and payback for the loss of such. The Special Deals that you and I were not and NEVER WILL be privy to.
Do I want the 150% back? YES. Do I think anyone should be able to be JA'd as many times as they want (it's not a REAL JA anyway)...YES. Do I want these Tools on the UltraSecret Board (USB) to trade OUR 4 days off so that THEY EXCLUSIVELY can go back to their 400% Special Deal Club? Umm...no, not really.
Does anyone REALLY believe that they are safe from commuting? Are you willing to lose those guaranteed 4 days off so that the Special Deal Club can resume getting trips/drops/pay that YOU and I CANNOT?
You know the players in this. It is NOT the ENTIRE 26% group. It never has been. It is a very small subset of those who HAD the inside line, the special handshake, the DEAL. You have sat next to them as they worked their magic with Scheduler X, you have wondered why YOU were not called even ONCE for the same. They do not give a rat's a$$ about YOU or your getting your 150% OT back. This recall is payback, plain and simple. It is payback for getting called out by the OTHER 95% of the pilot group who is NOT privy to the DEALS, payback for an end to unlimited 400% for the select few, payback for the oversight that is now in place in scheduling that GUARANTEES there is a level playing field for OT. (even though as I said, I would prefer it to be significantly more than 100%)
It's that simple folks. They are trying to stack the deck. They tried it with Travis, and unfortunately for them Travis has more character than their entire little club together. So now they move on to Frank. Next they will go back after Travis, etc etc ad nauseum.
From the USB thread, "Words from Travis Wheat": SKYVANS: "You are forever tarnished you Benedict Arnold. You're next"
It is no secret that the USB is an Indigo fabrication meant to foster Union division during our last negotiations. It succeeded by using the pawns on that board who chase their tails round and round day after day loathing the loss of their direct line to 400%. It is no secret that Cole Brantly is "Justthetip" on that Board with an exclusive Indigo lifeline and vested interest in the agenda of such. It is no secret that he is now the moderator of that board since negotiations have ended. It is no secret that he is one of the main motivators of this recall effort along with some of Spirit's finest, the elite of the elite, the best of the best. You know, the fellas that you avoid in the crew room with abandon because you KNOW they would sell your mother's eyes so they could get back their Special Deals.
It is quite entertaining to watch the USB elite try to paint Cole and Chuck as the Lone Warriors, standing stalwart against the "We" hoardes in the pursuit of truth, justice and 150% for ALL!!! Yeah, you guys are heros for sure.
If you do NOT do your part and participate in this vote, you are forfeiting your right to whine and complain if these Champions of Justice somehow get their puppets onto the LEC/MEC and into scheduling. You are forfeiting your right to look puzzled and scratch your head in disbelief when only a elect, specific group is called for unlimited JA's by the same company that you bust your a$$ for, all because they now have their puppets as Scheduling volunteers and "overseers". You are forfeiting your right to cry like a b!tch when the Vegas (or Chicago or LA or City X) base opens and you are now a commuter WITHOUT 4 days off. Think THAT can't or won't happen? These guys would sell out YOUR 4 days off quicker than you can say HeavyFreight. Hope you enjoy THAT, new commuter. It's only an LOA away.
Please do not be willfully ignorant. You are forfeiting.
Just my 2 cents.
Well USB, there you go. Let'r rip.
This recall is about a small group's Special Deals and payback for the loss of such. The Special Deals that you and I were not and NEVER WILL be privy to.
Do I want the 150% back? YES. Do I think anyone should be able to be JA'd as many times as they want (it's not a REAL JA anyway)...YES. Do I want these Tools on the UltraSecret Board (USB) to trade OUR 4 days off so that THEY EXCLUSIVELY can go back to their 400% Special Deal Club? Umm...no, not really.
Does anyone REALLY believe that they are safe from commuting? Are you willing to lose those guaranteed 4 days off so that the Special Deal Club can resume getting trips/drops/pay that YOU and I CANNOT?
You know the players in this. It is NOT the ENTIRE 26% group. It never has been. It is a very small subset of those who HAD the inside line, the special handshake, the DEAL. You have sat next to them as they worked their magic with Scheduler X, you have wondered why YOU were not called even ONCE for the same. They do not give a rat's a$$ about YOU or your getting your 150% OT back. This recall is payback, plain and simple. It is payback for getting called out by the OTHER 95% of the pilot group who is NOT privy to the DEALS, payback for an end to unlimited 400% for the select few, payback for the oversight that is now in place in scheduling that GUARANTEES there is a level playing field for OT. (even though as I said, I would prefer it to be significantly more than 100%)
It's that simple folks. They are trying to stack the deck. They tried it with Travis, and unfortunately for them Travis has more character than their entire little club together. So now they move on to Frank. Next they will go back after Travis, etc etc ad nauseum.
From the USB thread, "Words from Travis Wheat": SKYVANS: "You are forever tarnished you Benedict Arnold. You're next"
It is no secret that the USB is an Indigo fabrication meant to foster Union division during our last negotiations. It succeeded by using the pawns on that board who chase their tails round and round day after day loathing the loss of their direct line to 400%. It is no secret that Cole Brantly is "Justthetip" on that Board with an exclusive Indigo lifeline and vested interest in the agenda of such. It is no secret that he is now the moderator of that board since negotiations have ended. It is no secret that he is one of the main motivators of this recall effort along with some of Spirit's finest, the elite of the elite, the best of the best. You know, the fellas that you avoid in the crew room with abandon because you KNOW they would sell your mother's eyes so they could get back their Special Deals.
It is quite entertaining to watch the USB elite try to paint Cole and Chuck as the Lone Warriors, standing stalwart against the "We" hoardes in the pursuit of truth, justice and 150% for ALL!!! Yeah, you guys are heros for sure.
If you do NOT do your part and participate in this vote, you are forfeiting your right to whine and complain if these Champions of Justice somehow get their puppets onto the LEC/MEC and into scheduling. You are forfeiting your right to look puzzled and scratch your head in disbelief when only a elect, specific group is called for unlimited JA's by the same company that you bust your a$$ for, all because they now have their puppets as Scheduling volunteers and "overseers". You are forfeiting your right to cry like a b!tch when the Vegas (or Chicago or LA or City X) base opens and you are now a commuter WITHOUT 4 days off. Think THAT can't or won't happen? These guys would sell out YOUR 4 days off quicker than you can say HeavyFreight. Hope you enjoy THAT, new commuter. It's only an LOA away.
Please do not be willfully ignorant. You are forfeiting.
Just my 2 cents.
Well USB, there you go. Let'r rip.
08-19-2011 | 05:20 PM
#2803
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
From: Seated
I got a new screen name too. Why couldn't it be me? 
08-20-2011 | 07:08 AM
#2805
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 712
Likes: 0
From: in front of a computer screen
08-20-2011 | 08:07 AM
#2806
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,577
Likes: 0
Funny, I'd say the current administration is the "Me Party"
There is nothing wrong with an informed, active membership. Why does that scare you so much?
08-20-2011 | 10:00 AM
#2807
Thread Starter
Banned
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
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My question is,
How many members, Unhappy or can't live with the MEC and contract, do we actually have?
And
How many members, happy or can live with the MEC and contract till the next one, do we have.
Because I only see us here, the for and the against, and we don't add more than 30 total.
Just wondering.
How many members, Unhappy or can't live with the MEC and contract, do we actually have?
And
How many members, happy or can live with the MEC and contract till the next one, do we have.
Because I only see us here, the for and the against, and we don't add more than 30 total.
Just wondering.
08-20-2011 | 11:08 AM
#2808
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
From: Seated
I voted yes. Is it the best contract since sliced bread? No. Can I live with it till the next one? Yes.
08-20-2011 | 03:40 PM
#2809
Thread Starter
Banned
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 0
Me too, i voted yes. and I have the same feeling.
08-20-2011 | 03:48 PM
#2810
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: A320 FO
Is there anyone out there ill-informed or delusional enough to believe that this sham recall effort is REALLY about Flight Loss Pay? What a canard.
This recall is about a small group's Special Deals and payback for the loss of such. The Special Deals that you and I were not and NEVER WILL be privy to.
Do I want the 150% back? YES. Do I think anyone should be able to be JA'd as many times as they want (it's not a REAL JA anyway)...YES. Do I want these Tools on the UltraSecret Board (USB) to trade OUR 4 days off so that THEY EXCLUSIVELY can go back to their 400% Special Deal Club? Umm...no, not really.
Does anyone REALLY believe that they are safe from commuting? Are you willing to lose those guaranteed 4 days off so that the Special Deal Club can resume getting trips/drops/pay that YOU and I CANNOT?
You know the players in this. It is NOT the ENTIRE 26% group. It never has been. It is a very small subset of those who HAD the inside line, the special handshake, the DEAL. You have sat next to them as they worked their magic with Scheduler X, you have wondered why YOU were not called even ONCE for the same. They do not give a rat's a$$ about YOU or your getting your 150% OT back. This recall is payback, plain and simple. It is payback for getting called out by the OTHER 95% of the pilot group who is NOT privy to the DEALS, payback for an end to unlimited 400% for the select few, payback for the oversight that is now in place in scheduling that GUARANTEES there is a level playing field for OT. (even though as I said, I would prefer it to be significantly more than 100%)
It's that simple folks. They are trying to stack the deck. They tried it with Travis, and unfortunately for them Travis has more character than their entire little club together. So now they move on to Frank. Next they will go back after Travis, etc etc ad nauseum.
From the USB thread, "Words from Travis Wheat": SKYVANS: "You are forever tarnished you Benedict Arnold. You're next"
It is no secret that the USB is an Indigo fabrication meant to foster Union division during our last negotiations. It succeeded by using the pawns on that board who chase their tails round and round day after day loathing the loss of their direct line to 400%. It is no secret that Cole Brantly is "Justthetip" on that Board with an exclusive Indigo lifeline and vested interest in the agenda of such. It is no secret that he is now the moderator of that board since negotiations have ended. It is no secret that he is one of the main motivators of this recall effort along with some of Spirit's finest, the elite of the elite, the best of the best. You know, the fellas that you avoid in the crew room with abandon because you KNOW they would sell your mother's eyes so they could get back their Special Deals.
It is quite entertaining to watch the USB elite try to paint Cole and Chuck as the Lone Warriors, standing stalwart against the "We" hoardes in the pursuit of truth, justice and 150% for ALL!!! Yeah, you guys are heros for sure.
If you do NOT do your part and participate in this vote, you are forfeiting your right to whine and complain if these Champions of Justice somehow get their puppets onto the LEC/MEC and into scheduling. You are forfeiting your right to look puzzled and scratch your head in disbelief when only a elect, specific group is called for unlimited JA's by the same company that you bust your a$$ for, all because they now have their puppets as Scheduling volunteers and "overseers". You are forfeiting your right to cry like a b!tch when the Vegas (or Chicago or LA or City X) base opens and you are now a commuter WITHOUT 4 days off. Think THAT can't or won't happen? These guys would sell out YOUR 4 days off quicker than you can say HeavyFreight. Hope you enjoy THAT, new commuter. It's only an LOA away.
Please do not be willfully ignorant. You are forfeiting.
Just my 2 cents.
Well USB, there you go. Let'r rip.
This recall is about a small group's Special Deals and payback for the loss of such. The Special Deals that you and I were not and NEVER WILL be privy to.
Do I want the 150% back? YES. Do I think anyone should be able to be JA'd as many times as they want (it's not a REAL JA anyway)...YES. Do I want these Tools on the UltraSecret Board (USB) to trade OUR 4 days off so that THEY EXCLUSIVELY can go back to their 400% Special Deal Club? Umm...no, not really.
Does anyone REALLY believe that they are safe from commuting? Are you willing to lose those guaranteed 4 days off so that the Special Deal Club can resume getting trips/drops/pay that YOU and I CANNOT?
You know the players in this. It is NOT the ENTIRE 26% group. It never has been. It is a very small subset of those who HAD the inside line, the special handshake, the DEAL. You have sat next to them as they worked their magic with Scheduler X, you have wondered why YOU were not called even ONCE for the same. They do not give a rat's a$$ about YOU or your getting your 150% OT back. This recall is payback, plain and simple. It is payback for getting called out by the OTHER 95% of the pilot group who is NOT privy to the DEALS, payback for an end to unlimited 400% for the select few, payback for the oversight that is now in place in scheduling that GUARANTEES there is a level playing field for OT. (even though as I said, I would prefer it to be significantly more than 100%)
It's that simple folks. They are trying to stack the deck. They tried it with Travis, and unfortunately for them Travis has more character than their entire little club together. So now they move on to Frank. Next they will go back after Travis, etc etc ad nauseum.
From the USB thread, "Words from Travis Wheat": SKYVANS: "You are forever tarnished you Benedict Arnold. You're next"
It is no secret that the USB is an Indigo fabrication meant to foster Union division during our last negotiations. It succeeded by using the pawns on that board who chase their tails round and round day after day loathing the loss of their direct line to 400%. It is no secret that Cole Brantly is "Justthetip" on that Board with an exclusive Indigo lifeline and vested interest in the agenda of such. It is no secret that he is now the moderator of that board since negotiations have ended. It is no secret that he is one of the main motivators of this recall effort along with some of Spirit's finest, the elite of the elite, the best of the best. You know, the fellas that you avoid in the crew room with abandon because you KNOW they would sell your mother's eyes so they could get back their Special Deals.
It is quite entertaining to watch the USB elite try to paint Cole and Chuck as the Lone Warriors, standing stalwart against the "We" hoardes in the pursuit of truth, justice and 150% for ALL!!! Yeah, you guys are heros for sure.
If you do NOT do your part and participate in this vote, you are forfeiting your right to whine and complain if these Champions of Justice somehow get their puppets onto the LEC/MEC and into scheduling. You are forfeiting your right to look puzzled and scratch your head in disbelief when only a elect, specific group is called for unlimited JA's by the same company that you bust your a$$ for, all because they now have their puppets as Scheduling volunteers and "overseers". You are forfeiting your right to cry like a b!tch when the Vegas (or Chicago or LA or City X) base opens and you are now a commuter WITHOUT 4 days off. Think THAT can't or won't happen? These guys would sell out YOUR 4 days off quicker than you can say HeavyFreight. Hope you enjoy THAT, new commuter. It's only an LOA away.
Please do not be willfully ignorant. You are forfeiting.
Just my 2 cents.
Well USB, there you go. Let'r rip.
This is what I saw out in the picket line. It comes out eventually, it always has and it always will.
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