bubi352

"For the three months ended March 31, 2011, we had total operating revenues of $232.7 million, operating income of $26.8 million and net income of $7.9 million. We currently serve 46 airports."

skybolt

The company is playing poker. As of yesterday, I hear that they are going to attempt to live with the "as written" transition language for a while. IOW, they don't want to let us see them sweat.

captscott26

What other choice do they have, the language was just upheld in court. Like it or not, they got it.

skybolt

They can come to the pilots and ask for a deal. They can offer us something we want and gain relief if the language hurts them. This language only helps those senior enough to bid into conflicts, why not give the company back the previous transition (after all 90 something percent of us bid option 3 anyway) and take something that would help everybody. Like maybe dumping trip averaging, or gaining 150% pay for all hours flown over xx hours, or going back to last years health care rates.

If the recently upheld language was not strongly in our favor, why did the company spend so much trying to change it? They obviously would rather have something else but they don't want us to think that change has any real value. That is, they don't want us to see them sweat.

If not, then the union wasted an enormous amount of time and energy fighting to gain back language that was of no real value. You/they/we can't have it both ways. Either it was a huge win, or it wasn't. If it was, then the company will need some relief.

captscott26

You have been around here long enough to know that the company would not offer us anything near what would be required to go back to the old transition language.

We went on strike to get this contract, and the transition language is a big part of it for the pilots. If the company wanted to talk REAL money in exchange for the transition, I would be open to that. However, you and I both know how they negotiate. As far as Im concerned, I'll keep my transition, and we'll see ya at the table in 4 years.

Left Handed

I'm surprised about how some people think in this arbitration. There is no negotiating about gaining something. The affected pilots are to be made whole. that is it. That is how arbitration works. There is no " punitive" award of any kind. We cannot ask anything of mgmt because this is not an opening of negotiations. Only the affected pilots will be seeing any change. If the company offers us a side letter, of course we can take a look, but there is no gaining from this arbitration otherwise. We can't say "because we won, we get this". That's not how it works. We should be happy we won, and go after the next greivance. /End rant.

The neighbors bonfire and several beers has made me ornery tonight. Please forgive the rant.

ALPO Whisperer

Some guys went on strike for this contract...

Others went on strike because we sincerely believed we would achieve pay parity now...

As for the arbitration comments, we should ALWAYS be looking for ways to improve our standing as pilots, not just every four (whoops...I mean FIVE) years.

"Get What We're Worth!"

captscott26

Like it or not, we went on strike for this contract. Let's not start this silly argument again, ok.

ALPO Whisperer

Okay, you've got a deal CaptScott...

Anybody have any news out there? How's the IPO going?

Sailor

NKS just filed more papers at the end of APR. All quiet...

About the contract and the recently won arbitration, I think the company, just like our union said, they are going to honor and follow the rules (for what is worth), but I sure that they are going to be open to new ideas if that doesn't work, so should we....If it is in our best interest and it works for the company, why not negotiate something like mention before.

Getting the 150 back would mean a lot for many pilots, and Im all for it if it doesn't CHANGE my QOL.

Just MHO.

Cheers.