Spirit of NKS
08-27-2011, 08:38 PM
#2851
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 36
Latest and greatest from the Spirit Board "The Voice of the Cartel of Math Majors"
Tip's contact in management says; The Ultra Secret Board is great at calculating 400%, not so good at calculating 40%.
Justthetip chimes in first in this latest debacle with his, shall we say, "wildly incorrect" interpretation of 65 out of 348:
Re: the Hipocracy Continues
« Reply #10 on: Today at 02:45:43 PM »
Well, the bright side is that we made them see its not 26%, the crowd is getter bigger and louder.
...
Super job, Pythagoras, you're only off by a factor of OVER 100%. Next time you skip a meeting that YOU initiated, at LEAST use the time you normally waste staring in awe at Poletti's picture to learn how to figure percentages. It's actually pretty easy. Take the subset, divide it by the TOTAL set and then multiply by 100. VOILA! Here's a story problem example:
65 pilots want their Special Deals reinstated by replacing Scheduling Committee volunteers via a sham recall. They are part of a pilot group of 348, most of whom are not privy to said special deals. What percentage of these pilots are complete tools (and not very good at math)? Here goes: 65(subset)/348(total set) x 100 = (hold your breath)
18%
I just thank God every day that these brainiacs have an FMS to figure out their descent ratios. I would trust them with Priority Left's eyes to figure out a 400% special deal, but a 3 to 1 computation, I'm afraid, may just put 200 plus people into a mountain. But I'll give TIp credit in being right about ONE thing, they ARE loud, at least in the safety of their Ultra Secret Board, NOT so much at the actual meetings, you know, where you have to stand up for the things you circlejerk about in secret.
Moving on to A320Flyer, who appears to be the smart one of the bunch by recognizing the obvious fact that it is a 40% RATIO of votes CAST. But then he goes and blows his intellectual cover by transferring that ratio onto the ENTIRE pilot group. Basic math skills FAIL!
A320Flyer:
Re: Final Words from Cole Brantley - Where is your Money?
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 10:31:05 PM 95 to 65 is a 60% to 40% ratio. I overheard that 6 yes votes were not eligible due to "bad standing" status. The fact is that this is no longer 74% to 26% group. Anyone gonna make 40% lanyards?!
...
You, Sir are CORRECT!, it IS no longer 26%,! Good show!
The REAL question, A320Flyer is NOT whether anyone is going to make "40% lanyards, but if they will INSTEAD make "I' thought 18% was 40% and all I got was this lousy lanyard" lanyards?
DarthSpirit, not wanting his fellow 18%ers to out-idiot him, exclaims the following in an orgasm of stupidity:
Re: New tagline for the Board
« Reply #2 on: Today at 11:32:35 AM »
Spirit Cartel- not even Escobar can compete. Or Spirit Cartel- Even Escobar running scared. Spirit Cartel- "say hello to my little friends" 40% and growing!
...
The simple fact of the matter is thus; you and your group of merry math deprived men mustered EVERY POSSIBLE VOTE YOU COULD. Every single one. You have been working on this effort for MONTHS (if not a year and change). You garnered 65. Out of a pilot group of THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY-EIGHT! Even the Spartans mustered 300, and they KNEW THEY WOULD BE KILLED!, but of course they were much taller, ripped, fought for a nobel cause, and most importantly, actually KNEW the odds. Oh yeah, we probably shouldn't forget they also fought for the ENTIRE group (kind of like the MEC). Commie Spartans!
So bra-vo, golf clap, game well played. But it ain't 40%, it ain't 26, it's not even 20. 18%. That's not even the corner of the bell curve. 18% is the part of the bell curve that the CORNER of the bell curve farts upon.
And in case the rest of you apathetic non-voters think this is the last of it, please consider the wise, prophetic words of Hotstart when he proclaims from the Pulpit of the Percentagely Challenged:
Re: Final Words from Cole Brantley - Where is your Money?
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 10:40:49 PM »
Hey Ladies and Gentlemen, We fought the good fight and may have lost this first round - but it ain't over until the Fat Lady Sings.* She is just warming up in the green room from what I can tell.* Let's regroup and take a new approach...
...
Great, I sure hope this approach doesn't involve math.
Get Real
Tip's contact in management says; The Ultra Secret Board is great at calculating 400%, not so good at calculating 40%.
Justthetip chimes in first in this latest debacle with his, shall we say, "wildly incorrect" interpretation of 65 out of 348:
Re: the Hipocracy Continues
« Reply #10 on: Today at 02:45:43 PM »
Well, the bright side is that we made them see its not 26%, the crowd is getter bigger and louder.
...
Super job, Pythagoras, you're only off by a factor of OVER 100%. Next time you skip a meeting that YOU initiated, at LEAST use the time you normally waste staring in awe at Poletti's picture to learn how to figure percentages. It's actually pretty easy. Take the subset, divide it by the TOTAL set and then multiply by 100. VOILA! Here's a story problem example:
65 pilots want their Special Deals reinstated by replacing Scheduling Committee volunteers via a sham recall. They are part of a pilot group of 348, most of whom are not privy to said special deals. What percentage of these pilots are complete tools (and not very good at math)? Here goes: 65(subset)/348(total set) x 100 = (hold your breath)
18%
I just thank God every day that these brainiacs have an FMS to figure out their descent ratios. I would trust them with Priority Left's eyes to figure out a 400% special deal, but a 3 to 1 computation, I'm afraid, may just put 200 plus people into a mountain. But I'll give TIp credit in being right about ONE thing, they ARE loud, at least in the safety of their Ultra Secret Board, NOT so much at the actual meetings, you know, where you have to stand up for the things you circlejerk about in secret.
Moving on to A320Flyer, who appears to be the smart one of the bunch by recognizing the obvious fact that it is a 40% RATIO of votes CAST. But then he goes and blows his intellectual cover by transferring that ratio onto the ENTIRE pilot group. Basic math skills FAIL!
A320Flyer:
Re: Final Words from Cole Brantley - Where is your Money?
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 10:31:05 PM 95 to 65 is a 60% to 40% ratio. I overheard that 6 yes votes were not eligible due to "bad standing" status. The fact is that this is no longer 74% to 26% group. Anyone gonna make 40% lanyards?!
...
You, Sir are CORRECT!, it IS no longer 26%,! Good show!
The REAL question, A320Flyer is NOT whether anyone is going to make "40% lanyards, but if they will INSTEAD make "I' thought 18% was 40% and all I got was this lousy lanyard" lanyards?
DarthSpirit, not wanting his fellow 18%ers to out-idiot him, exclaims the following in an orgasm of stupidity:
Re: New tagline for the Board
« Reply #2 on: Today at 11:32:35 AM »
Spirit Cartel- not even Escobar can compete. Or Spirit Cartel- Even Escobar running scared. Spirit Cartel- "say hello to my little friends" 40% and growing!
...
The simple fact of the matter is thus; you and your group of merry math deprived men mustered EVERY POSSIBLE VOTE YOU COULD. Every single one. You have been working on this effort for MONTHS (if not a year and change). You garnered 65. Out of a pilot group of THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY-EIGHT! Even the Spartans mustered 300, and they KNEW THEY WOULD BE KILLED!, but of course they were much taller, ripped, fought for a nobel cause, and most importantly, actually KNEW the odds. Oh yeah, we probably shouldn't forget they also fought for the ENTIRE group (kind of like the MEC). Commie Spartans!
So bra-vo, golf clap, game well played. But it ain't 40%, it ain't 26, it's not even 20. 18%. That's not even the corner of the bell curve. 18% is the part of the bell curve that the CORNER of the bell curve farts upon.
And in case the rest of you apathetic non-voters think this is the last of it, please consider the wise, prophetic words of Hotstart when he proclaims from the Pulpit of the Percentagely Challenged:
Re: Final Words from Cole Brantley - Where is your Money?
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 10:40:49 PM »
Hey Ladies and Gentlemen, We fought the good fight and may have lost this first round - but it ain't over until the Fat Lady Sings.* She is just warming up in the green room from what I can tell.* Let's regroup and take a new approach...
...
Great, I sure hope this approach doesn't involve math.
Get Real
08-28-2011, 03:16 AM
#2853
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Seated
Posts: 338
You can't be on the cartel board getreal. You know how to do math...
08-28-2011, 04:08 AM
#2854
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 99
I believe first year guys are not allowed to vote. So how many out of 335 could of voted?
08-28-2011, 07:40 AM
#2855
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: in front of a computer screen
Posts: 712
Getreal... thanks for posting for the "rest of us" that can't go on the Spirit board.
08-28-2011, 04:56 PM
#2856
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 320*****
Posts: 487
Originally Posted by skybolt
I am concerned about participation. We only managed to draw around sixty or so members to the meeting. (I had to fly and left after about ten mins into the meeting, so that number is just my observation, it could be wrong by a few) This is out of a Local membership of 330 pilots.
Originally Posted by skybolt
As far as your assertion that this was the third recall attempt, I must protest. A regularly scheduled election is NOT a recall.
Originally Posted by skybolt
I will also disagree with your point that the 26%'rs had momentum and that "most of us were unhappy about the way things went down during and after the strike". I don't wear a 26% lanyard, I fly very little OT. I commute and don't pick up or trade, etc, etc, etc. I was not the 26% candidate. Had the 26%'rs been irate, they would have had run one of their members.
Originally Posted by skybolt
In regard to this latest recall effort, the recall movement didn't even have an organized effort to support their recall. (One guy offering to gather proxies at the Dunkin Donuts is not a fully organized effort.) The pilot that called for recall did so because his circle of friends/acquaintances is upset about the way things are going. They believed, incorrectly, that their movement was "grass roots". Considering that the vote total in opposition to recall almost doubled the meeting attendance, it was obviously not "grass roots".
The recall that took place in Frank's first year was about one of the FO's being turned in to the Feds. Frank explained why he called the FAA and the members kept him in. Over and done with. Totally unrelated to the last one.
The recall that took place in Frank's first year was about one of the FO's being turned in to the Feds. Frank explained why he called the FAA and the members kept him in. Over and done with. Totally unrelated to the last one.
Originally Posted by skybolt
agreed in principle, but an unorganized effort to recall just gained 65 votes for recall, obviously there is a desire to change. Not a majority of politically active members, but a significant number to be sure.
09-01-2011, 07:28 AM
#2857
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 167
Whats up with the open time for SEPT?! (FLL FO) Horrible. Capts have pages of it
09-01-2011, 07:47 AM
#2858
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 319/320/321...whatever it takes.
Posts: 492
Originally Posted by LineHolder
Whats up with the open time for SEPT?! (FLL FO) Horrible. Capts have pages of it
. Can't believe it, not a single red day!
09-01-2011, 09:26 AM
#2859
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: in front of a computer screen
Posts: 712
For all those really unhappy Chaps that want change... B6 is excepting apps: This could be Justthetip for you
09-01-2011, 09:44 AM
#2860
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Seated
Posts: 338
Originally Posted by shiftwork
For all those really unhappy Chaps that want change... B6 is excepting apps: This could be Justthetip for you
What's b6?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
