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Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 869777)
Didn't take that long!
Debate what, something that's done?, instead of just pulling fwd and just enjoying what you have. That kind of havoc. At least you agree on recalls and hopefully you don't think that they may take your job!! Peace. Hey Sailor, why are you allowing that 4 leg red eye pairing? It is dangerous. I am utterly appalled that the union signed off on this. I am dumbfounded. With help from God, I hope all those pairings complete safely. Where is ALPA and our MEC on this. Is it true they are OK with it? Peace and God be with us... |
Originally Posted by yournamehere
(Post 870111)
Hey Sailor, why are you allowing that 4 leg red eye pairing? It is dangerous. I am utterly appalled that the union signed off on this. I am dumbfounded. With help from God, I hope all those pairings complete safely. Where is ALPA and our MEC on this. Is it true they are OK with it?
Peace and God be with us... |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 869668)
It's human nature to create havoc and confusion where there isnt!
This is great news, I hope to see some of my friends back. Cheers. Why do you say cheers all the time? It's annoying. Peace Out!!! |
Originally Posted by yournamehere
(Post 870111)
Hey Sailor, why are you allowing that 4 leg red eye pairing? It is dangerous. I am utterly appalled that the union signed off on this. I am dumbfounded. With help from God, I hope all those pairings complete safely. Where is ALPA and our MEC on this. Is it true they are OK with it?
Peace and God be with us... SA 09 626 FLL-MCO 2001 2057 0056 0030 319 SA 09 195 MCO-FLL 2127 2229 0102 0111 319 SA 09 779 FLL-BQN 2340 0204 0224 0056 320 SU 10 604 BQN-FLL 0300 0527 0227 320 Let's see, 1916 show, four legs, released at 0557. NICE! (BTW, anyone get the latest tropical update yet?) My favorite part is the 1:11 turn in fll, just enough time to get tired. SWEET! I thought we had more input into the pairing/line construction now. Perhaps the scheduling committee confused "TAKING IT BACK" with "TAKING IT FROM THE BACK" |
That pairing is EXTREMELY dangerous. The only thing I think of is that the union is taking the position of, "Okay company, go ahead and do this to our guys...see what happens to your little schedule when our guys call out fatigued in BQN in the middle of the night."
No union leader in their right mind would sign off on that type of pairing...or, would they??? |
Originally Posted by ALPO Whisperer
(Post 870137)
That pairing is EXTREMELY dangerous. The only thing I think of is that the union is taking the position of, "Okay company, go ahead and do this to our guys...see what happens to your little schedule when our guys call out fatigued in BQN in the middle of the night."
No union leader in their right mind would sign off on that type of pairing...or, would they??? |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 870113)
Save your breath, he is probably FLUMOXED!
Cheers |
Originally Posted by yournamehere
(Post 870118)
Wow, an expert on human behavior too!!! Is there no bounds to your expertise????
Why do you say cheers all the time? It's annoying. Peace Out!!! And lots of CHEERS to ya!! |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 870387)
You mean Flummoxed, not I am not confused. Just loosing interest on this ping pong game.
Cheers |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 870449)
Yes, thanks for the extra 'm' I mmust have been fatigued when I typed it.
BTW, i do agree that next month's lines suck arss. Obviously, the Company nor our union seem to care anyway...My point is, that it doesn't matter what kind of contract, our company can care less. Cheers. |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 870501)
Whatever dude, you are the one coming up with the paper's "word of the day".
BTW, i do agree that next month's lines suck arss. Obviously, the Company nor our union seem to care anyway...My point is, that it doesn't matter what kind of contract, our company can care less. Cheers. |
Heard there were some recalls today for Dec 1. Welcome back!
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Just saw that on the b---- board! Any word on how many/how far down the list they got?
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10-03 Three (3) DTW AB Captains
10-03 SIX (6) FLL AB Captains 10-03 ONE (1) ACY AB Captain 10-04 TWO (2) DTW AB First Officers EFF 01DEC10 Like always the question is, who's passing and who's not coming back at all. Welcome back those coming back, and congrats to the UG's :) |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 871067)
10-03 Three (3) DTW AB Captains
10-03 SIX (6) FLL AB Captains 10-03 ONE (1) ACY AB Captain 10-04 TWO (2) DTW AB First Officers EFF 01DEC10 Like always the question is, who's passing and who's not coming back at all. Welcome back those coming back, and congrats to the UG's :) Welcome back to those coming back. I do have a question, with a Vacancy for 10 captains, and only 2 FO's, where does the extra headcount come from/go? As I understand the CBA, there are a static number of positions, unless there is a net vacancy or reduction. This bid seems to imply that the above positions are an addition, so 10 FO's upgrade, leaving 10 FO slots open, plus 2 new FO slots = 12 recalls. Does that math seem right? And if so, how many furloughs does that leave? |
I was wondering the same, but if IT IS 12 pilots and we still have 48-52 on fur, this will leave 36-40.
Then again, a "CA America style FO", has been telling ppl up in ACY, that the Co contacted almost everyone as a survey and only 13 are coming back. Personally, I think this kid is high and carries to many brain bag stickers, more than his experience allows. Nevertheless, its good news. :) |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 871095)
I was wondering the same, but if IT IS 12 pilots and we still have 48-52 on fur, this will leave 36-40.
Then again, a "CA America style FO", has been telling ppl up in ACY, that the Co contacted almost everyone as a survey and only 13 are coming back. Personally, I think this kid is high and carries to many brain bag stickers, more than his experience allows. Nevertheless, its good news. :) |
Sailor
Yea, I know CA America FO he's a buddy of mine. The breakdown is as follows: 1st Calls = 15 Mandatory = 20 No Info = 19 Undecided = 4 (between 1st or Mandatory) No calls were ever made, he sent out an email to all the furloughed pilots asking to see when they would come back. If you like you can PM me your email and I have him send you a copy. BTW, he's more of a Nerd/Dork than Capt. America. Capt. America and I will not be back on this next call. But, congrats to all the Furloughed pilots that do come back. Jedinight |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 870572)
Heard there were some recalls today for Dec 1. Welcome back!
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Originally Posted by Jedinight
(Post 871167)
Sailor
Yea, I know CA America FO he's a buddy of mine. The breakdown is as follows: 1st Calls = 15 Mandatory = 20 No Info = 19 Undecided = 4 (between 1st or Mandatory) No calls were ever made, he sent out an email to all the furloughed pilots asking to see when they would come back. If you like you can PM me your email and I have him send you a copy. BTW, he's more of a Nerd/Dork than Capt. America. Capt. America and I will not be back on this next call. But, congrats to all the Furloughed pilots that do come back. Jedinight But thanks for the info, it really helps those still out. Cheers. |
Originally Posted by CommutR4Life
(Post 871204)
Weren't you they guy saying none of the furloughs would be back anytime soon with the new contracts efficiencies; and to thank the yes voters for keeping them on the street?!?:eek:
huh, a what?, this is EJ, who is this?:eek: |
They aren't going to go public! Why do you want to give something up for something that isn't going to happen?
Where is that pair of clown shoes? |
Originally Posted by CommutR4Life
(Post 871204)
Weren't you they guy saying none of the furloughs would be back anytime soon with the new contracts efficiencies; and to thank the yes voters for keeping them on the street?!?:eek:
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I can't even come up with a coherent reply. I just need to sit on my toilet and weep. Unbelievable.
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Spirit IPO
great news, for some!!!
Public IPO By JOHN KELL Spirit Airlines Inc. filed plans to hold an initial public offering of up to $300 million, with the Florida-based airline retaining about half of the net proceeds. Spirit, which provides travel to and from South Florida, the Caribbean and Latin America, offers low-priced basic service combined with a range of optional additional fees, targeting price-sensitive travelers. Although many carriers suffered from volatility in fuel costs and the severe economic recession, Spirit maintained relatively stable unit revenue while reducing costs, allowing it to remain profitable in the past three full years. However, for the six months ended June 30, Spirit swung to a loss , as operating expenses jumped on an increase in fuel and wage costs. Total revenue grew 2% to $357.4 million. According to the company's regulatory filing, it expects to retain $150 million from the offering. The remaining proceeds will be used to pay a $1.6 million termination fee with Indigo Partners LLC, which acquired a majority stake in Spirit in 2006. Other proceeds will be used to repay outstanding notes. Spirit is the largest carrier at Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport, as measured by passengers. It also has a significant presence in Atlantic City, N.J., Detroit and Myrtle Beach, S.C. More than 100 companies have filed plans with the Securities and Exchange Commission to hold IPOs and are currently working to complete the process. But a number of companies have faced challenges as they go public, with many downsizing or delaying their plans. Write to John Kell at [email protected] MORE IN BUSINESS EmailPrinter FriendlyOrder Reprints |
Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 872243)
great news, for some!!!
Public IPO By JOHN KELL Spirit Airlines Inc. filed plans to hold an initial public offering of up to $300 million, with the Florida-based airline retaining about half of the net proceeds. Spirit, which provides travel to and from South Florida, the Caribbean and Latin America, offers low-priced basic service combined with a range of optional additional fees, targeting price-sensitive travelers. Although many carriers suffered from volatility in fuel costs and the severe economic recession, Spirit maintained relatively stable unit revenue while reducing costs, allowing it to remain profitable in the past three full years. However, for the six months ended June 30, Spirit swung to a loss , as operating expenses jumped on an increase in fuel and wage costs. Total revenue grew 2% to $357.4 million. According to the company's regulatory filing, it expects to retain $150 million from the offering. The remaining proceeds will be used to pay a $1.6 million termination fee with Indigo Partners LLC, which acquired a majority stake in Spirit in 2006. Other proceeds will be used to repay outstanding notes. Spirit is the largest carrier at Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport, as measured by passengers. It also has a significant presence in Atlantic City, N.J., Detroit and Myrtle Beach, S.C. More than 100 companies have filed plans with the Securities and Exchange Commission to hold IPOs and are currently working to complete the process. But a number of companies have faced challenges as they go public, with many downsizing or delaying their plans. Write to John Kell at [email protected] MORE IN BUSINESS EmailPrinter FriendlyOrder Reprints Ahh... yeah... Just got word that training at MIA has been suspended for the rest of the month. I cannot confirm, but that's what I was told by someone that was sent home.... Wonder why.... |
Lets feed the rumor MILL!!!!!
IPO, Stop training, Recall, Furlough, SELL, BUY, whatever, someone farts and in 2 hrs and 700 miles is a WMD!! Just got to laugh!!!!:) Cheers (Hey 320Flyer, so they cxl PT/PC, i'm sure whoever told you that, knows why they sent him/her home! So NO SIM for the rest of SEP, Cause i got my sim coming up in a week.) This is an info question, no sarcasm. |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 861853)
Yes. With all the efficiency added with he new reserve, 90 hour line build, and now TRANSITION, I wouldn't expect the phone to ring anytime soon. So grab a beer and enjoy the view from the sidelines. Thank 74% of your buddies!
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Originally Posted by Sailor
(Post 872243)
great news, for some!!!
Public IPO By JOHN KELL Spirit Airlines Inc. filed plans to hold an initial public offering of up to $300 million, with the Florida-based airline retaining about half of the net proceeds. Spirit, which provides travel to and from South Florida, the Caribbean and Latin America, offers low-priced basic service combined with a range of optional additional fees, targeting price-sensitive travelers. Although many carriers suffered from volatility in fuel costs and the severe economic recession, Spirit maintained relatively stable unit revenue while reducing costs, allowing it to remain profitable in the past three full years. However, for the six months ended June 30, Spirit swung to a loss , as operating expenses jumped on an increase in fuel and wage costs. Total revenue grew 2% to $357.4 million. According to the company's regulatory filing, it expects to retain $150 million from the offering. The remaining proceeds will be used to pay a $1.6 million termination fee with Indigo Partners LLC, which acquired a majority stake in Spirit in 2006. Other proceeds will be used to repay outstanding notes. Spirit is the largest carrier at Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport, as measured by passengers. It also has a significant presence in Atlantic City, N.J., Detroit and Myrtle Beach, S.C. More than 100 companies have filed plans with the Securities and Exchange Commission to hold IPOs and are currently working to complete the process. But a number of companies have faced challenges as they go public, with many downsizing or delaying their plans. Write to John Kell at [email protected] MORE IN BUSINESS EmailPrinter FriendlyOrder Reprints You are delusional.... |
Originally Posted by CommutR4Life
(Post 872257)
Ahhhem! This was what i was referring to.....The phone rang sooner than later
There are a boat-load of 85+ block lines in fll for oct. There's a couple more jobs right there. Worst part of this, is we did it to ourselves. We had all the leverage in the world, and we threw it away. We could have been a participant in this IPO, but we bought into the oldest trick in the book. "We'll shut it down". We got what we deserve. |
Originally Posted by yournamehere
(Post 872262)
You are delusional....
Cheers |
Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 872263)
Yeah, for 12. Great if you're one of the 12, nobody else's phone rang.
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Originally Posted by CommutR4Life
(Post 872283)
I heard ALL of their phones rang, but only 12 answered! :D
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Originally Posted by BoredwLife
(Post 872287)
Mine didn't ring. :(
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Originally Posted by CommutR4Life
(Post 872283)
I heard ALL of their phones rang, but only 12 answered! :D
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dn- I know they got at least as far as 480, not sure how much further down than that.
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Oct 11
They actually moved up the Nov 1 class to be effective Oct 11; not sure where you would get any of the other rumors from.
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Originally Posted by NJGov
(Post 872553)
They actually moved up the Nov 1 class to be effective Oct 11; not sure where you would get any of the other rumors from.
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Got the recall yesterday (fri, sept 17). I was only told about a nov 1 class. I did hear the rumor (not from any official at NK) of a possible oct class and that if they could put it together, it would be in addition to the nov 1 class. Contactually I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that the oct class would be optional, and as long as the nov 1 class stays intact, there would be no violation as recallees still have the option to get into the nov 1 class.
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Originally Posted by 319wisperer
(Post 872569)
Got the recall yesterday (fri, sept 17). I was only told about a nov 1 class. I did hear the rumor (not from any official at NK) of a possible oct class and that if they could put it together, it would be in addition to the nov 1 class. Contactually I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that the oct class would be optional, and as long as the nov 1 class stays intact, there would be no violation as recallees still have the option to get into the nov 1 class.
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