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07-17-2013 | 07:55 PM
#6191
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Whoever came up with that crap should be shot. I keep hearing two things over and over:
1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.
So yes. Reserves can work into a day off as long they are scheduled within 3 hours and group A pilots are exhausted and within 2 calendar days, etc... As long those conditions are met, yes they can.
1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.
b. Group “B” pilots may be used only if no Group “A” pilot is
available or when less than three hours remain to report time. The
Company will make the electronic general solicitation log in readonly
format, continuously available to the Association. Group “B”
pilots are to be assigned in the following order:
1) Reserve pilots for whom the assignment would schedule them
into a moveable day off but are otherwise within the more
restrictive limits of Section 12 and 25;
available or when less than three hours remain to report time. The
Company will make the electronic general solicitation log in readonly
format, continuously available to the Association. Group “B”
pilots are to be assigned in the following order:
1) Reserve pilots for whom the assignment would schedule them
into a moveable day off but are otherwise within the more
restrictive limits of Section 12 and 25;
So yes. Reserves can work into a day off as long they are scheduled within 3 hours and group A pilots are exhausted and within 2 calendar days, etc... As long those conditions are met, yes they can.
"Example: A pilot is scheduled for reserve duty on June 1, 2, 3, and 4, followed by moveable days off on June 5, 6, 7, and 8. Scheduling must notify the pilot of the intent to have him on duty on June 5 no later than 0001 on June 2."
07-17-2013 | 09:16 PM
#6192
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From: A320FO
[QUOTE=Normann;1446403]Whoever came up with that crap should be shot. I keep hearing two things over and over:
1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.QUOTE]
Chill bro, If you read the post, I didn't say you could not accept / request from scheduling / be assigned open time as a reserve pilot. I said you cannot login into flica and PICK UP a trip from open time. So again, its not quite as easy to blow past 100 credit hours for standard reserve folk.
1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.QUOTE]
Chill bro, If you read the post, I didn't say you could not accept / request from scheduling / be assigned open time as a reserve pilot. I said you cannot login into flica and PICK UP a trip from open time. So again, its not quite as easy to blow past 100 credit hours for standard reserve folk.
07-18-2013 | 03:43 AM
#6193
Gets Weekends Off
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From: 320 Left soon middle
A reserve pilot must be given 72 hours notice of any trip assignment that will cause you to work on a moveable day off.
"Example: A pilot is scheduled for reserve duty on June 1, 2, 3, and 4, followed by moveable days off on June 5, 6, 7, and 8. Scheduling must notify the pilot of the intent to have him on duty on June 5 no later than 0001 on June 2."
"Example: A pilot is scheduled for reserve duty on June 1, 2, 3, and 4, followed by moveable days off on June 5, 6, 7, and 8. Scheduling must notify the pilot of the intent to have him on duty on June 5 no later than 0001 on June 2."
07-18-2013 | 04:02 AM
#6194
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From: 320 Left soon middle
[QUOTE=Turbinebound;1446942]
May be you meant that. But you clearly wrote:
But I am not lashing out at you in specific. Many people are under the impression that it is illegal to do this and that. I am just sick of listening to morons who are lazy to even read the language.
Whoever came up with that crap should be shot. I keep hearing two things over and over:
1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.QUOTE]
Chill bro, If you read the post, I didn't say you could not accept / request from scheduling / be assigned open time as a reserve pilot. I said you cannot login into flica and PICK UP a trip from open time. So again, its not quite as easy to blow past 100 credit hours for standard reserve folk.
1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.QUOTE]
Chill bro, If you read the post, I didn't say you could not accept / request from scheduling / be assigned open time as a reserve pilot. I said you cannot login into flica and PICK UP a trip from open time. So again, its not quite as easy to blow past 100 credit hours for standard reserve folk.
But I am not lashing out at you in specific. Many people are under the impression that it is illegal to do this and that. I am just sick of listening to morons who are lazy to even read the language.
07-19-2013 | 12:51 PM
#6196
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Fueling procedures
Not sure what the union email was getting at by saying it is basically not in line with the CBA established duties. Are they advocating we don't have to be on board and should disregard this new rule?
07-19-2013 | 02:22 PM
#6197
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From: Schempp-Hirth
07-19-2013 | 04:20 PM
#6199
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I don't know how 26-8w applies...
I think it talks about the "action of refueling", not monitoring, witch is what these guys want us to do!
But they could also make it part of your preflight/post flight duties, couldn't they?
My question would be, if you arrived, you start deplaning, fueling begins, and new crew waiting to take the AC, can new pilots step in and take over?
I think it talks about the "action of refueling", not monitoring, witch is what these guys want us to do!
But they could also make it part of your preflight/post flight duties, couldn't they?
My question would be, if you arrived, you start deplaning, fueling begins, and new crew waiting to take the AC, can new pilots step in and take over?
Last edited by Sailor; 07-19-2013 at 04:31 PM.
07-19-2013 | 05:15 PM
#6200
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From: My seat smells like cat pee
I don't know how 26-8w applies...
I think it talks about the "action of refueling", not monitoring, witch is what these guys want us to do!
But they could also make it part of your preflight/post flight duties, couldn't they?
My question would be, if you arrived, you start deplaning, fueling begins, and new crew waiting to take the AC, can new pilots step in and take over?
I think it talks about the "action of refueling", not monitoring, witch is what these guys want us to do!
But they could also make it part of your preflight/post flight duties, couldn't they?
My question would be, if you arrived, you start deplaning, fueling begins, and new crew waiting to take the AC, can new pilots step in and take over?
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