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03-15-2017 | 09:48 AM
#2941
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Spirit is my 5th rodeo.
The training program here is absolutely the worst I've ever experienced, and I've worked for some extremely crappy outfits. Even Suddern Air's organic training was far superior, not even mentioning the Boeing training I went through transitioning to the 400.
It is absolutely bare bones minimum, just barely enough to satisfy the FAA and not a penny more.
We had people struggling to get through when the mins were 4000 hours and 500 PIC. And Pink Slips have sharply increased since we dropped our mins.
However, that being said, mark yourself a scab and apparently you'll get ALL the time in the world to get through training.
The training program here is absolutely the worst I've ever experienced, and I've worked for some extremely crappy outfits. Even Suddern Air's organic training was far superior, not even mentioning the Boeing training I went through transitioning to the 400.
It is absolutely bare bones minimum, just barely enough to satisfy the FAA and not a penny more.
We had people struggling to get through when the mins were 4000 hours and 500 PIC. And Pink Slips have sharply increased since we dropped our mins.
However, that being said, mark yourself a scab and apparently you'll get ALL the time in the world to get through training.
03-15-2017 | 10:51 AM
#2942
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From: Under the Frog
I've heard they have since changed hotels, but the Crowne Plaza, while nice enough for a night or two waiting for one's cruise, simply suuuuuucked as a long term option; no laundry, no kitchen, closest Publix was a mile away and the only other food option was the horribly overpriced hotel restaurant or Anthony's Pizza, which while a fine pizza indeed (for New York style, anyways) was simply unnafordable as a daily option while on training pay.
The worst training program out there? I'm sure there are worse. But out of the 5 I've been through (6 if you count Suddern's outsourced Boeing 400 transition course) this was BY FAR the worst experience I've ever had.
Can a 2000 hour pilot get through it? Sure, they do every day. But as total experience levels decrease, the number of pink slips issued has dramatically increased, so you tell me; is it worth the gamble?
03-15-2017 | 12:37 PM
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Correct, for an experienced guy, the training is fairly straightforward. It's just a lot of firehouse with minimal input from the instructors. It's not geared for a 2000 hour pilot, much less a 1500 hour one. The training is firehose, the hours are ridiculous, the study material minimal and there was practically zero time for decompressing afterwards, much less getting in any actual useful studying. After 4pm most brains were mush, and there was still two hours to go.
I've heard they have since changed hotels, but the Crowne Plaza, while nice enough for a night or two waiting for one's cruise, simply suuuuuucked as a long term option; no laundry, no kitchen, closest Publix was a mile away and the only other food option was the horribly overpriced hotel restaurant or Anthony's Pizza, which while a fine pizza indeed (for New York style, anyways) was simply unnafordable as a daily option while on training pay.
The worst training program out there? I'm sure there are worse. But out of the 5 I've been through (6 if you count Suddern's outsourced Boeing 400 transition course) this was BY FAR the worst experience I've ever had.
Can a 2000 hour pilot get through it? Sure, they do every day. But as total experience levels decrease, the number of pink slips issued has dramatically increased, so you tell me; is it worth the gamble?
I've heard they have since changed hotels, but the Crowne Plaza, while nice enough for a night or two waiting for one's cruise, simply suuuuuucked as a long term option; no laundry, no kitchen, closest Publix was a mile away and the only other food option was the horribly overpriced hotel restaurant or Anthony's Pizza, which while a fine pizza indeed (for New York style, anyways) was simply unnafordable as a daily option while on training pay.
The worst training program out there? I'm sure there are worse. But out of the 5 I've been through (6 if you count Suddern's outsourced Boeing 400 transition course) this was BY FAR the worst experience I've ever had.
Can a 2000 hour pilot get through it? Sure, they do every day. But as total experience levels decrease, the number of pink slips issued has dramatically increased, so you tell me; is it worth the gamble?
While I understand where you're coming from at the same time using that same logic ANY training program is a gamble. If you failed your CRJ type at your first airline gig because you have 1200 hours and barely the requirements for a restricted ATP you'll get the same pink slip as you would if you failed a checkride with 10,000 hours and 10 types. Or even a failed checkride with 1500 hours at a regional. I just don't personally see this as a valid argument. Preparation is everything and regardless of experience studying and doing your part to prepare yourself should easily be enough to pass a checkride. We have all done it through our whole careers.
03-15-2017 | 12:42 PM
#2944
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Correct, for an experienced guy, the training is fairly straightforward. It's just a lot of firehouse with minimal input from the instructors. It's not geared for a 2000 hour pilot, much less a 1500 hour one. The training is firehose, the hours are ridiculous, the study material minimal and there was practically zero time for decompressing afterwards, much less getting in any actual useful studying. After 4pm most brains were mush, and there was still two hours to go.
I've heard they have since changed hotels, but the Crowne Plaza, while nice enough for a night or two waiting for one's cruise, simply suuuuuucked as a long term option; no laundry, no kitchen, closest Publix was a mile away and the only other food option was the horribly overpriced hotel restaurant or Anthony's Pizza, which while a fine pizza indeed (for New York style, anyways) was simply unnafordable as a daily option while on training pay.
The worst training program out there? I'm sure there are worse. But out of the 5 I've been through (6 if you count Suddern's outsourced Boeing 400 transition course) this was BY FAR the worst experience I've ever had.
Can a 2000 hour pilot get through it? Sure, they do every day. But as total experience levels decrease, the number of pink slips issued has dramatically increased, so you tell me; is it worth the gamble?
I've heard they have since changed hotels, but the Crowne Plaza, while nice enough for a night or two waiting for one's cruise, simply suuuuuucked as a long term option; no laundry, no kitchen, closest Publix was a mile away and the only other food option was the horribly overpriced hotel restaurant or Anthony's Pizza, which while a fine pizza indeed (for New York style, anyways) was simply unnafordable as a daily option while on training pay.
The worst training program out there? I'm sure there are worse. But out of the 5 I've been through (6 if you count Suddern's outsourced Boeing 400 transition course) this was BY FAR the worst experience I've ever had.
Can a 2000 hour pilot get through it? Sure, they do every day. But as total experience levels decrease, the number of pink slips issued has dramatically increased, so you tell me; is it worth the gamble?
Can't fault our instructors on this, there is just too little time to show them different things they will need to know/do on the line.
03-15-2017 | 05:49 PM
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While I understand where you're coming from at the same time using that same logic ANY training program is a gamble. If you failed your CRJ type at your first airline gig because you have 1200 hours and barely the requirements for a restricted ATP you'll get the same pink slip as you would if you failed a checkride with 10,000 hours and 10 types. Or even a failed checkride with 1500 hours at a regional. I just don't personally see this as a valid argument. Preparation is everything and regardless of experience studying and doing your part to prepare yourself should easily be enough to pass a checkride. We have all done it through our whole careers.
03-15-2017 | 07:46 PM
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From: Under the Frog
The difference is that most regional programs have the low time pilot in mind. Lots of ground and lots of sims. Our program is designed for an experienced 121 pilot but they are having to hire inexperienced guys because they don't want to pay. Collateral damage is an increase in pink slips because changing the training program would cost to much and a pink slip also gets someone stuck here forever which helps them too.
03-16-2017 | 11:51 AM
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