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Old 01-20-2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
This is not a RAP shift. Scheduled duty no longer than 14hrs from the start of the RAP. You can go up to 16hrs if there is a delay or something like that but whatever they assign you you would have to be scheduled to be released by 17:00. There is really nothing they could legally assign you by calling at 15:00. Last opportunity for them to call would be around 12:30. That gives you 3hrs to get the flight out at 15:30, 1 hr to fly to the destination (fll-MCO/ las-San), and a 30 min debrief for a 17:00 release domicile time.

Like someone said before. 25.k.1

Fly now grieve later is not for black and white contract violations. Just refuse it and give the contract reference.
I guess I took his question as being released and assigned a trip outside of his original RAP. Are we really in that bad of shape where schedulers don't know something as basic as duty times?
Old 01-20-2016 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Pepper
I guess I took his question as being released and assigned a trip outside of his original RAP. Are we really in that bad of shape where schedulers don't know something as basic as duty times?
Yes we are since it is a position that requires OJT only. Given the amount of new schedulers hired within the last year, it behooves all of us to know the contract, at least somewhat. Those in CS hired with low or no aviation background find themselves with the firehose of training just to know what they are looking at in CrewTrack, and know its functions. Additionally, they have to know 117, the pilots contract, and the flight attendants contract. Therefore, especially those on reserve, certainly know the limitations and rules because they wont. I've been recently called asking if i could do a pairing, only to tell them that would be 7 plus days in a row--and thats an easy one to see, let alone some of the other contractual rules you may have to look up. Conclusion: make sure you know more than them.
Old 01-20-2016 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudpile
Oh yeah? And then what?
It's the airline industry, they can barely predict 6 months from now..... I'm pretty sure nobody saw $29 a barrel oil coming.
Old 01-20-2016 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by putzin
It's the airline industry, they can barely predict 6 months from now..... I'm pretty sure nobody saw $29 a barrel oil coming.
You'd be quite mistaken. Many traders had been calling for oil with a 2-handle. Then again, many also predicted oil rebounding to a 7-handle. It's unpredictable, but for an airline to base their business model on cheap oil (as the legacies are) would ignore the basic facts of the oil industry. Pickens has been quoted as saying that there is a 1 million barrel/day oversupply out of a 95 million barrel/day demand in today's market. That doesn't leave much buffer for prices to drop further, especially with capex at major oil companies being cut significantly. Throw in the possibility of the dollar weakening, while unlikely, could also drive up prices...
Old 01-21-2016 | 05:43 AM
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Where's our Contract. This is absurd that we are worse off than AUG 1.

Nice job Ackerman.


I also "heard" our operating margin was changed from 17%-22.5% because they projected us having a contract by now. But of course we don't and our 6 year CAs make less than 3 year Legacy F/Os so that's awesome

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Old 01-21-2016 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by VegassBus
I also "heard" our operating margin was changed from 17%-22.5% because they projected us having a contract by now. But of course we don't and our 6 year CAs make less than 3 year Legacy F/Os so that's awesome
From the negotiators mouth at a union meeting a while back. "They could give us delta pay right now and it wouldn't not affect their margin by more then 1 percent."

They would have 21% margin if they paid us today....
Old 01-21-2016 | 09:05 AM
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Was reading on another thread, junior Captain at Delta awarded to a Feb 2014 hire. NYC MD88
Old 01-21-2016 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GWY320
Was reading on another thread, junior Captain at Delta awarded to a Feb 2014 hire. NYC MD88
The lists are moving fast everywhere with the retirements coupled with quite a bit of hiring.

It really is currently commercial pilot nirvana. Enjoy it while it lasts!
Old 01-21-2016 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
The lists are moving fast everywhere with the retirements coupled with quite a bit of hiring.

It really is currently commercial pilot nirvana. Enjoy it while it lasts!
The legacies can have two year captain rates over $200/hr because they don't have two year captains. WRONG! People need to wake up. Do not settle for anything less than legacy parity it better. They can afford it.
Old 01-21-2016 | 09:30 AM
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2nd year Delta MD88 CA rate $187/hr, profit sharing (21.4% of 2015 W2 according to another thread), and 15% defined contribution into retirement account. Let's aim high.

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