Well, alright then.

In the previous post you suggested that we would be removing JRM limitations and all of the protections associated with it. What you did was read into what they said, twist it, and post it on here what you assumed it meant.

You are a council 77 pilot so maybe call Ryan or James. That's not trying to be a jerk; I do have quite a few people who need actual assistance and I want to serve Council 109 and my family and my job as best I can. Sorry if I don't always have time to take your questions as to what position our negotiating committee is taking with the company.

Is that good enough? Because now I am 12 pages behind again and right now I can't read any of it so I hope that's good for now. After my PC I'll get caught up how our stock value is affected by turtles in Croatia and how we have 1 more airplane coming in 2021. SMH lol

 

Just saw 660 at a gate in FLL

 

Many of the failures are captains already chief and have been for quite some time.

 

I have often wondered they value of not sending F/O's for the PT at the 6 month mark with the Captains. Sending everyone every 6 months for training might solve some of these issues.

As far as the "warm up" I think it should be changed. We should get a practice oral and do the actual PC the day before the actual PC. At the conclusion of the "warm up" we should either get a sign off for the PC or get additional training. After the PC then we should get the Bogota sim witch should be just training.

This would drive up the training costs but would solve many of these issues. Simply telling the pilots it is all their fault isn't a solution. There is value with training and we have some of the best training instructors I have ever worked with.

 

Ehhh I don't know. If you know your limitations and memory items and fly the airplane standard, the chance of you busting a PC is very slim

 

100% agree. I have never had a problem. But from the repeated communications it would seem a fix is needed for some of the pilots.

 

True

(Filler)

 

I combed through the last few pages of the thread and can't find an answer, so maybe someone can enlighten me.

I'd heard talks (a week ago) that your negotiating committee was either close to, or had an Agreement in Principle with the company. Is this purely rumor or is there any truth in it? ALPA can be a little guarded with info during contract negotiations.

[cough, cough, "non-disclosure agreements," cough, cough, "we have to vote it in to let you see what's in it."]

 

That would be news to us. Doubtful

 

Or we could get an industry leading contract to attacts top talent instead of the bottom of the barrel. The growth cycle overcame that issue the last 4 years but now with no upgrade in sight for new hires you can see the effect in the candidates. Pre-2011 hiring the industry was a mess so we got a mix even with a bad contract, but if you go back to pre 9/11 when many top tier airlines were hiring we attracted a certain "type" and it wasn't the best of the best obviously with a few exceptions.

I would wager that there is at least some correlation to the failures and the hiring cycles when we were attracting a lower tier candidate. The sudden spike could be that we have more check airmen now and the good ole boys club that got those weak guys through for so many years has been suddenly shaken up.