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Old 06-01-2016 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
So your not a bad a$$. Roger that, Bud Fox, you had me worried there for a minute. Oh wait, he was convicted, so that puts you to the left of the criminal - tough guy / hero - tough guy continuum.
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Old 06-01-2016 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
It's easy to be an anonymous Internet tough guy, I'm trying to ground you in the reality of your situation. Unfortunately your not educated enough (in this matter) to know any better.

The good news for you is they cancelled a few flights already tonight. That being said, my phone hasn't rung (nor would I answer if they did - my choice, not yours). You may be getting set up for the job action acusation. That's all they need right now, just put it in their pocket until it's time to start talking release with the NMB.

I didn't vote for you, and personally wish you would stop trying to help me.
I'm not trying to help you, although I think you're part of the problem.

And quit trying to scare everyone. Management hasn't even approached the union yet and asked them to ask us to stop. That's the first step. And we have many more steps to go before your dreaded job action accusation. Why are you really so worried? Do you think we will go farther faster if we just go along with managements pace? Do you think the current Union plan of appeasement is the right move?

I've called for a much more muscular tone. Billboards, newspaper ads, and pilots should minimize added flying. I will add that I only support legal actions which I believe all these are. I've never called for a sick out or a slow down.

As a line pilot I have every right to complain and ask for others to pressure our union leaders and management into action. Why you're so afraid to join us in expecting everyone to fly only their awarded line until a TA is had is beyond me. I'll say it again, there is nothing wrong, illegal or unethical with expecting each other to fly only their awarded line.
Old 06-02-2016 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I agree the last thing I would want is a SWA merger. I also agree that red/green is a non-negotiable.

But to be a captain making fo wages and then dropping tons of time to make rj wages- that's a part time job. I'd say this a career for most so that's not an option. I know you see all sides but many of the hobbists don't. Hobbists will to forego money just to have 22 days off a month need to just go work at Starbucks for fun because they obviously don't need this job to be a career.
Valid points, but just to be clear, I'm not saying the ability to drop days makes our horrendous pay ok, just pointing out that Red/Green is something we need to ensure stays around
Old 06-02-2016 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I agree the last thing I would want is a SWA merger. I also agree that red/green is a non-negotiable.

But to be a captain making fo wages and then dropping tons of time to make rj wages- that's a part time job. I'd say this a career for most so that's not an option. I know you see all sides but many of the hobbists don't. Hobbists will to forego money just to have 22 days off a month need to just go work at Starbucks for fun because they obviously don't need this job to be a career.
Why do you care what someone else does with their life? What's wrong with 22 days off? You guys are pieces of work. Loud mouth internet warriors dictating how others should live. Here I'll try:

You need to just go work at the majors because obviously you need to make more money because you can't live within your means. You need to take a second job at Starbucks to pay your electricity bill because obousivly you can't live with less than delta pay and enjoy life at home. 15 days off is the maximum you should have. 22? That's crazy. If you have 22 off your a hobbiest .

Ugh I feel so douchy now. Is this what it feels like to be a internet warrior?

And thanks guys for all the negotiation and illegal work action chatter on here. It's nice that y'all are so open with stuff. yall are really helping everything along. This board is full of so many great ideas and influential individuals. I think I'm going to pick something up so I don't get labeled a "hobbiest"...
Old 06-02-2016 | 06:07 AM
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UNITY................filler
Old 06-02-2016 | 06:13 AM
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What the few weak links do effects the entire group.
Old 06-02-2016 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingOkra
What the few weak links do effects the entire group.
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Old 06-02-2016 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
affects

Loose the attitude, maybe there school wasn't good
Old 06-02-2016 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
But to be a captain making fo wages and then dropping tons of time to make rj wages- that's a part time job. I'd say this a career for most so that's not an option. I know you see all sides but many of the hobbists don't. Hobbists will to forego money just to have 22 days off a month need to just go work at Starbucks for fun because they obviously don't need this job to be a career.
LOL!! Well I guess that makes me a hobbyist as defined by you. The only thing I have flown in the last two months is a simulator.

Who the hell are you to judge and label others. I'm sure you will have some wise ass remark or derogatory comment to make. That's fine, just hanging out enjoying all my time off. Now back to dropping the rest of my month, is this a great hobby or what.
Old 06-02-2016 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
affects

Thank God I can fly an airplane and manage a cockpit. Would've never been hired if there was an essay portion of the interview process. 😂

But really. You're a Virgin guy in here distracting from a much bigger issue.
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