Notices

Spirit of NKS, Part II

Old 07-17-2016 | 12:04 PM
  #7401  
dn_wisconsin's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 0
From: A320 Captain
Default

Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Can someone please fill me in why the company needs ALPA to "sign off" on an aircraft order?
Thinking the same thing. We have pay rates up to 178 seats, not including the 321s. C-Series will be below 178 and if they aren't there's not anything we can do about it. Look at the 320s with 182.
Old 07-17-2016 | 12:12 PM
  #7402  
Rainbows's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Low paid Airbus gear slinger
Default

Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Can someone please fill me in why the company needs ALPA to "sign off" on an aircraft order?
They don't. And the company doesn't need to get Union approval for a new type either. Not unless the new airplane has less than 99 seats or more than 180, except the 321.
Old 07-17-2016 | 12:17 PM
  #7403  
Plane Ramrod's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,577
Likes: 0
Default

I remember BF saying something about realigning the schedule in September. May have some base realignment to notify the MEC about. Cost savings in consolidating bases, etc. They will need those cost savings to pay for our raise. Another way to look at it, "Hey, MEC, we are going to turn all your pilots' lives upside down unless you pay for your qol with a bargain basement TA.
Old 07-17-2016 | 12:21 PM
  #7404  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,364
Likes: 145
Default

Originally Posted by Rainbows
If I remember right, this question was asked during the last Union phone call and in the transcript, they said they'd look into how they can distribute that information to the membership. Like everyone else, I keep hearing people have interviews elsewhere and are leaving. Since we keep filling up classes, I'm guessing management sees a benefit in higher pay rate guys leaving and low pay rate guys coming in.
I don't want to sound like a total jerk, but don't guess. Read the May 2016 investor slides, specifically page 14 bullet 4. Pilot demographics ("Juniority") and the salary/compensation structure are specifically listed as a CASM "tailwind". It isn't something to get all bent out of shape over, after all the company is very up-front that this is a highly competitive "low cost" carrier and the entire business model depends on low costs across the board.

Following contract rules... that seems to be a separate issue. My utterly worthless advice is merely don't skip reading the investor reports even after you're working for a company.
Old 07-17-2016 | 12:21 PM
  #7405  
Rainbows's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 815
Likes: 0
From: Low paid Airbus gear slinger
Default

Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
I remember BF saying something about realigning the schedule in September. May have some base realignment to notify the MEC about. Cost savings in consolidating bases, etc. They will need those cost savings to pay for our raise. Another way to look at it, "Hey, MEC, we are going to turn all your pilots' lives upside down unless you pay for your qol with a bargain basement TA.
That's pretty detailed, I'm guessing it'll go more something like this: "okay guys, I got you all here together, you're the leaders of the pilots, let's work hard on getting this contract negotiations back on track. High five! Ready, ready, break!" Then there will be some backslapping, some pictures taken, maybe a beer, and that will be it.
Old 07-17-2016 | 12:36 PM
  #7406  
Plane Ramrod's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,577
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Rainbows
That's pretty detailed, I'm guessing it'll go more something like this: "okay guys, I got you all here together, you're the leaders of the pilots, let's work hard on getting this contract negotiations back on track. High five! Ready, ready, break!" Then there will be some backslapping, some pictures taken, maybe a beer, and that will be it.

There has to be some implied threat, we are at that stage. I'm surprised they haven't taken any hostages yet.
Old 07-17-2016 | 01:12 PM
  #7407  
gonyon's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,499
Likes: 0
Default Spirit of NKS, Part II

Originally Posted by Rainbows
That's pretty detailed, I'm guessing it'll go more something like this: "okay guys, I got you all here together, you're the leaders of the pilots, let's work hard on getting this contract negotiations back on track. High five! Ready, ready, break!" Then there will be some backslapping, some pictures taken, maybe a beer, and that will be it.


No no. No no. He will pull them in the room and say absolutely nothing. Then dismiss them. When pilots ask the mec what the meeting was about the mec will say "nothing. He said nothing". At which point everyone's head will explode that there is a mega conspiracy and this forum gets that much more entertaining.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Old 07-17-2016 | 01:22 PM
  #7408  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Default

You've heard it here first.......



Mesa has just purchased Spirit Airlines and we all get a guaranteed interview to work for Mesa.

The endless speculation is indeed entertaining. What's that ding I hear? I think my popcorn is ready.
Old 07-17-2016 | 01:41 PM
  #7409  
Chimpy's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,864
Likes: 178
Default

Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
I remember BF saying something about realigning the schedule in September. May have some base realignment to notify the MEC about. Cost savings in consolidating bases, etc. They will need those cost savings to pay for our raise. Another way to look at it, "Hey, MEC, we are going to turn all your pilots' lives upside down unless you pay for your qol with a bargain basement TA.
That's my fear with them closing ACY but every bid they add a CA VAC so I'm not sure why they'd be doing that if they plan to close the base.

Oh well, nothing we can do
Old 07-17-2016 | 01:55 PM
  #7410  
Tranquility's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,690
Likes: 20
From: 60’s Tech, Right
Default

If there does, heaven forbid, happen to be a base closure, everyone senior to me should resign in protest....
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
De La Ghetto
Flight Schools and Training
22
11-26-2014 05:41 PM
dl773
Flight Schools and Training
2
06-17-2014 03:03 PM
emj55
Major
8
06-04-2008 03:58 AM
downinthegroove
Regional
2
06-03-2008 05:55 PM
N618FT
Regional
34
11-19-2007 07:28 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices