Spirit of NKS, Part II
09-09-2016 | 05:22 AM
#8791
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It's ironic that Audi talks about lies and deceit. You abused a substance. Lied on your medical. Were caught. Had your medical suspended for 180 days. Appealed. Missed the deadline. Said that a hurricane evacuation caused you to miss the deadline. The NTSB fact checked that and caught you in another lie. It's all out there for everyone to see. Like others, I'm onto your game! It's a game that you can control in the closed chat rooms, but out here I'm going to make sure that people understand your level of integrity. Then they can go back and watch the conversations that take place in whatsapp.
09-09-2016 | 05:38 AM
#8792
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From: A320 Right
The pilot group are involved in the negotiations. We have given our input through several surveys. And sorry, your speculative logical reasoning....nah, I don't think so.
Look, it would do you or me no good if we knew the "ask". It's most likely pretty high as it should be, but things will change for better or worse in the course of negotiations. My least favorite rep, JA, tried to cater to our "great urge to know" last year. We kept hearing things like "we are very close", "we are only xxx dollars apart", etc. That certainly backfired on us, didn't it.
Let the NC do their job - you will have your say in the end.
Look, it would do you or me no good if we knew the "ask". It's most likely pretty high as it should be, but things will change for better or worse in the course of negotiations. My least favorite rep, JA, tried to cater to our "great urge to know" last year. We kept hearing things like "we are very close", "we are only xxx dollars apart", etc. That certainly backfired on us, didn't it.
Let the NC do their job - you will have your say in the end.
Furthermore, they have never published the results of the survey.
Every other major pilot union published their positions.
Why doesn't ours? Something fishy may be going on here and I don't want to wait until 2018 to see a crappy TA and then make a move to replace.
If these guys won't tell us what every other airline union tells their members we should replace them.
Info pickets, billboards, newspaper advertisements. Transperancy in our union opening position. No more excuses!!!
09-09-2016 | 05:52 AM
#8793
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We should know their starting point now so we can replace them if they don't have the nerve to ask for industry standard without burning years only to find out they were weak all along.
Furthermore, they have never published the results of the survey.
Every other major pilot union published their positions.
Why doesn't ours? Something fishy may be going on here and I don't want to wait until 2018 to see a crappy TA and then make a move to replace.
If these guys won't tell us what every other airline union tells their members we should replace them.
Info pickets, billboards, newspaper advertisements. Transperancy in our union opening position. No more excuses!!!
Furthermore, they have never published the results of the survey.
Every other major pilot union published their positions.
Why doesn't ours? Something fishy may be going on here and I don't want to wait until 2018 to see a crappy TA and then make a move to replace.
If these guys won't tell us what every other airline union tells their members we should replace them.
Info pickets, billboards, newspaper advertisements. Transperancy in our union opening position. No more excuses!!!
Not entirely true, B6 does not have open negotiations. Let the NC do their job. Do I want to be a fly on the wall in bargaining sessions, HELL YA! I have all the confidence in our NC. Just remember they are fighting for you and a respectable, maybe even great contract. I'd start thanking them instead of bashing every time we don't hear every little tidbit. I'm certain I just set myself up for a bashing, but let's start backing our guys and start showing a little unity in a joint effort that we all can reap rewards from.
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09-09-2016 | 05:54 AM
#8794
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Squeaky banana, if you aren't MH, you do an incredible impersonation of him! Here's how MH operates: listen to me, I'm the voice of reason, can't we all just get along? But after a while, the reality is: I'm controlling the message! We're getting screwed! I will fall on the sword for you!
It's all garbage. Those whatsapp chat rooms are a cesspool of hate. Jyri and Bendo must be loving MH and CB! They've achieved more in a week than management has in a year!
Here's the game plan, for the unfamiliar:
CB and company push for a recall. Get one or both of their guys in. MH runs for CA rep in FLL. They might get one other rep in FLL. They push their agenda, which definitely includes a recall of the NC! CB is (by his own admission) of questionable character - he was called out by an NTSB judge for lying! Google it! MH is a pathological liar. The people that are indulging them in those chat rooms are being led to idealogical slaughter! Waken up! Watch the conversations that take place in there. You're being manipulated.
The NC will walk a tightrope if they publish their ask. This group has proved its maturity level, when they allowed MH and CB to control the narrative!
It's all garbage. Those whatsapp chat rooms are a cesspool of hate. Jyri and Bendo must be loving MH and CB! They've achieved more in a week than management has in a year!
Here's the game plan, for the unfamiliar:
CB and company push for a recall. Get one or both of their guys in. MH runs for CA rep in FLL. They might get one other rep in FLL. They push their agenda, which definitely includes a recall of the NC! CB is (by his own admission) of questionable character - he was called out by an NTSB judge for lying! Google it! MH is a pathological liar. The people that are indulging them in those chat rooms are being led to idealogical slaughter! Waken up! Watch the conversations that take place in there. You're being manipulated.
The NC will walk a tightrope if they publish their ask. This group has proved its maturity level, when they allowed MH and CB to control the narrative!
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09-09-2016 | 05:57 AM
#8795
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Not entirely true, B6 does not have open negotiations. Let the NC do their job. Do I want to be a fly on the wall in bargaining sessions, HELL YA! I have all the confidence in our NC. Just remember they are fighting for you and a respectable, maybe even great contract. I'd start thanking them instead of bashing every time we don't hear every little tidbit. I'm certain I just set myself up for a bashing, but let's start backing our guys and start showing a little unity in a joint effort that we all can reap rewards from.
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09-09-2016 | 05:57 AM
#8796
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From: A320 Captain
It's ironic that Audi talks about lies and deceit. You abused a substance. Lied on your medical. Were caught. Had your medical suspended for 180 days. Appealed. Missed the deadline. Said that a hurricane evacuation caused you to miss the deadline. The NTSB fact checked that and caught you in another lie. It's all out there for everyone to see. Like others, I'm onto your game! It's a game that you can control in the closed chat rooms, but out here I'm going to make sure that people understand your level of integrity. Then they can go back and watch the conversations that take place in whatsapp.
09-09-2016 | 06:21 AM
#8797
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Spirit of NKS, Part II
Omg everyone shut tf up
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09-09-2016 | 06:45 AM
#8798
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That is 100% false! This has been explained in this forum previously and you know it. I am happy to let anyone see the outcome, I won a long battle with the FAA over this, I will not re hash this silly lie that the same people keep perpetuating, you really think Spirit would hire someone that had that in their background, seriously?!? You guys have been perpetuating this lie over and over, there is zero truth to it. I have never had a 180 day suspension of anything or have ever had a suspension, if you know something that HR does not then please for the good of "integrity" and "credibility" go and report this to them.
NTSB Order number: EA - 5122
Docket SE - 17024
09-09-2016 | 07:04 AM
#8799
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is this you? If not, then I unequivocally apologize. If, however, it is, then are the NTSB making stuff up? You put yourself out there and conduct a vendetta against a member of the NC. How does it feel when the light shines on you?
Is this you? If not, then I unequivocally apologize. If, however, it is, then are the NTSB making stuff up? You put yourself out there and conduct a vendetta against a member of the NC. How does it feel when the light shines on you?
09-09-2016 | 08:04 AM
#8800
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Anyone loving mgmt suspending our pilots without pay for a month for missing his deadhead after training?
Lovely environment our mgmt is creating here. Lil divide, lil conquer, lil intimidation with a sprinkle of strong man for the union busting soup du jour.
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Lovely environment our mgmt is creating here. Lil divide, lil conquer, lil intimidation with a sprinkle of strong man for the union busting soup du jour.
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