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Old 08-26-2016 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
It's also a big assumption that your sample statement would be considered legal. We are dealing with a company that wants to drag this out as long as possible, and a mediator that is only there to make sure both sides are playing by the rules - however slanted in the company's favor those rules are. Right now, our NC can show several times that we have gone above and beyond to work with the company, and can show blatant continuing violations of the CBA and non-compliance with arbitrators' rulings. Why give the company anything, like a big gray-area statement, to allow the company to deflect from our points?




Well, last time the company completely disrespected the mediator and that helped get us released.



It probably won't work, and it may hurt. Sometimes doing nothing is the best course of action. Not a pilot like attitude? We're not flying a plane. Do you use a pilot-like attitude when you negotiate on a new car or a house?




Joe six-pack averages 55K per year. The company says "These guys make $185 per hour (I know, top of the scale isn't a fair representation of wages but that's what they will say) and that's not enough for them, they are jacking up your ticket price." Beside, these guys sleep half the time anyway. I know I always feel bad for MLB players when they go on strike.
#1 Yes. It may not be the best statement. That's what we pay attorney for. I suggest a strong, legal, statement asking pilots to comply with the CBA and nothing extra. It will pull the thin veil off the guys who use the line "the union doesn't back it so I'm going to get mine"
If the leadership asks us to unify by not doing anything above the requirements of our job, how can you (or arbitrator ) say that's not okay? And before you answer for managements point, why not just ask the MEC to look into it?

2) Pilot like attitude is a way of life. Yes. I assume I will be successful. Doesn't always happen but it's a life orientation. We should assume we can pressure the company effectively instead of assuming failure and doing nothing.

3) Joe six pack does vote with his dollars. It's why Madison Ave exist. Advertising influences behavior. It's why we pay for a PR personnel. The old guy may not have cared if our rep was junk but the new guy definitely does. It would be very effective.
Old 08-26-2016 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeSmiles
I agree. But you have to start somewhere to put pressure on. We are a long way off from release, strike vote, etc. Delta is looking for a, what, 30% increase doing informational picketing. We are trying to get a "path to parity" to what they have now...ish. Southwest is doing informational picketing. We held signs in an abandoned hallway that only the "money men" could see. It is a start, but I think more should be done, and when the public, who already thinks they are flying a po-dunk airline when they see our ticket prices sees that the people most responsible for their lives are doing so at 50% of what their peers make at a "real airline" it doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence. It will put pressure on and make people think twice that another strike may be in the works.
I say we push for informational picketing. I believe it's a strong message of unity to management that we still are fired up about a new contract and we are willing to do what ever it takes to get it done!
Old 08-27-2016 | 05:03 AM
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I say we push for informational picketing. I believe it's a strong message of unity to management that we still are fired up about a new contract and we are willing to do what ever it takes to get it done!
i happened to see the swa guys at love field on wednesday, pretty inspirational.
Old 08-27-2016 | 01:49 PM
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Anyone know what the "new LAS crew base plans" are??
Old 08-27-2016 | 02:35 PM
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Anyone know what the "new LAS crew base plans" are??
In mymobile365 there is now a new folder listed as 55 Chief Pilot Notes. Nice of them to tells us where to find the info huh?
Old 08-27-2016 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
In mymobile365 there is now a new folder listed as 55 Chief Pilot Notes. Nice of them to tells us where to find the info huh?

That's what I saw- out of town without my co iPad- so no mymobile access...


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Old 08-27-2016 | 03:28 PM
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Anyone know what the "new LAS crew base plans" are??


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Old 08-27-2016 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SG1159
Anyone know what the "new LAS crew base plans" are??
Not much. Just plans for the LAS crew room.
Old 08-27-2016 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AldiAirbus
Not much. Just plans for the LAS crew room.
It's super fancy. Marble floors. Roman arches. Fit for a king
Old 08-27-2016 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeSmiles
We held signs in an abandoned hallway that only the "money men" could see.
And if I were the CEO I'd play right into that. "You should be glad to see them there. The longer we keep them standing there the more profitable this place will be."
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