Spirit of NKS, Part II
09-12-2016 | 03:26 PM
#8871
ULTP-Ultra Low Tier Pilot
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Can anyone explain to me why the CP mentioned in the grievance email is on our seniority list? This guy is clearly no friend of ours. If he can't play nice like most of the CPs he needs lose his seniority number and go to the dark side permanently. I figure this probably isn't possible but it's frustrating that there are people like this in the world. We don't always have to agree but everyone in a professional setting needs to be treated with respect even if mistakes have been made and consequences must be handed down. Intimidation has no place.
09-12-2016 | 03:35 PM
#8872
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From: A320
He was hired the same time as our "International Chief Pilot," 2 years ago. Im ok they are on the seniority list because they are paying a management dues rate. So they, as management, are paying into the union every paycheck. Management having to pay dues does have a ironic justice to it.
09-12-2016 | 03:55 PM
#8873
Gets Weekends Off
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If anyone has yet to notice, this airline isn't playing nice with the pilots. They haven't been for a long time but now are starting to show their colors more true. This is all by design and JB is the architect. A big part of bringing him in was to handle us and the FAs. Once our contract is settled my guess is he will move on.
We need to stay focused, stop the infighting and unify around our negotiating committee until they give us reason not to. The petitions and the dfw LEC stuff needs to take a back seat IMO. It's distracting us from the true problem which is management denying us our contract for no reason other than they can. They are starting to get hostile because it's their only option besides paying and they don't want to pay.
Last edited by Qotsaautopilot; 09-12-2016 at 04:08 PM.
09-12-2016 | 05:47 PM
#8874
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2010
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No need to worry guys and gals. I've got a petition going against Gary McMillan. Audi2000 is involved along with the DFW tinfoil hat club. So basically it's a done deal.
Www.getridofmcmill.org
09-12-2016 | 05:52 PM
#8875
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Joined: Sep 2015
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From: A320
No need to worry guys and gals. I've got a petition going against Gary McMillan. Audi2000 is involved along with the DFW tinfoil hat club. So basically it's a done deal.
Www.getridofmcmill.org
Www.getridofmcmill.org
09-12-2016 | 05:58 PM
#8876
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Under the Frog
09-12-2016 | 07:30 PM
#8877
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
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He was hired the same time as our "International Chief Pilot," 2 years ago. Im ok they are on the seniority list because they are paying a management dues rate. So they, as management, are paying into the union every paycheck. Management having to pay dues does have a ironic justice to it.
Management dues rate = 0%
09-12-2016 | 10:36 PM
#8880
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2016
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From: A320 Left
I don't think we'll see the ask, and I honestly think we'll be better off if we don't see it. The reason being that once we see it, the vocal minority on these forums will inevitably proceed to negotiate in public. Everybody knows management reads these forums, why should we discuss what we will and won't accept and undermine the work the NC has done. They are well aware of what this group expects, let them do their job without our interference.
If a TA comes out and it's pure garbage, then we can discuss alternatives.
If a TA comes out and it's pure garbage, then we can discuss alternatives.
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