Spirit of NKS, Part III
#222
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Joined: Jul 2016
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How embarrassing. It's no wonder we aren't respected and are unable to get a contract.
Maybe we have the contract we deserve.
Divided we stand.
Maybe we have the contract we deserve.
Divided we stand.
#223
Banned
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 568
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From: A320
Yeah, in 2010 we had zero infighting! Just guys getting threatened by others they'll get their arses kicked in the parking lot. Nothing like this though.
#227
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 355
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From: Yellow Bus
Jesus Christ, enough of the infighting. Bendo just made a 100k while he still has almost $2,000,000.00 in stocks, while we sit here and fight with each other, all while we make a fraction our peers and are years away from a contract.
Make sure you ar ****ed off at the right people
Make sure you ar ****ed off at the right people
China needs A320 captains. 500 hours pic. Pays $260k starting. Contract plus bonuses. Something to consider you 4 year captains.
#228
So, it's time to order my leather jacket. Is the Calfskin upgrade worth $100? Can you tell the difference?
#229
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,451
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From: Airplanes
I had a long conversation with an interior employee at Spirit on the infrastructure support side of the company this week. Not director level but not a 9-5 Joe either. After my conversation with them I left feeling even more depressed than ever about this company.
Forget pilot pay, we don't pay anyone market rate. Not HR. Not benefit administrators. Not IT. Not accounting. Not payroll. No one. Everyone is making 50% of going market rates. And the Mirimar turnover rate is atrocious. And Spirit couldn't care less. Loyalty and longevity is meaningless here. It's all dollars. Bendo and Euro were both mentioned in very little regard.
Their assessment of this company was that it'll take a merger level of an event to see the wholesale changes need in management to ever get anyone paid market rates. And that assumes that our management is shown the door with golden, I mean yellow, parachutes and we're managed by someone else.
I think very, very few here realize the kind of fight that we are in. This company doesn't give a damn about your green lanyard (I wear one proudly), picketing (I've walked), or the industry average ask from our negotiating team (I support them). Why don't they care? Because airplanes are moving, we're making record profits, and IMPROVING our on-time performance. This is war and Mirimar is the enemy. The only way we will get anything that resembles what we deserve is if airplanes stop moving. And they need to stop moving today. Not intentionally or through sabotage but by following the manuals and regulations that we have before us.
Do not fly an airplane with an undocumented discrepancy. If it isn't in the MEL, DMI, or NEF then write it up. Exposed metal on the fuselage, horizontal stabilizer damage, missing hoist coupling covers, portions of an LED light inop, torn seats, missing luggage tie downs, foot rests that won't retract, mismatched cowl covers, seats that won't retract upright on their own, damaged ACP's, and anything else that isn't working as installed. This is their airline, make them fix it or document it. We should not be moving airplanes that are not legal to fly.
This is your job and your career. It's time to quite fighting amongst ourselves and time to take the fight to the enemy. Grow a pair, properly preflight your airplane, don't extend, and quite picking up open time. This is going to get ugly so be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there.
FSHF
Forget pilot pay, we don't pay anyone market rate. Not HR. Not benefit administrators. Not IT. Not accounting. Not payroll. No one. Everyone is making 50% of going market rates. And the Mirimar turnover rate is atrocious. And Spirit couldn't care less. Loyalty and longevity is meaningless here. It's all dollars. Bendo and Euro were both mentioned in very little regard.
Their assessment of this company was that it'll take a merger level of an event to see the wholesale changes need in management to ever get anyone paid market rates. And that assumes that our management is shown the door with golden, I mean yellow, parachutes and we're managed by someone else.
I think very, very few here realize the kind of fight that we are in. This company doesn't give a damn about your green lanyard (I wear one proudly), picketing (I've walked), or the industry average ask from our negotiating team (I support them). Why don't they care? Because airplanes are moving, we're making record profits, and IMPROVING our on-time performance. This is war and Mirimar is the enemy. The only way we will get anything that resembles what we deserve is if airplanes stop moving. And they need to stop moving today. Not intentionally or through sabotage but by following the manuals and regulations that we have before us.
Do not fly an airplane with an undocumented discrepancy. If it isn't in the MEL, DMI, or NEF then write it up. Exposed metal on the fuselage, horizontal stabilizer damage, missing hoist coupling covers, portions of an LED light inop, torn seats, missing luggage tie downs, foot rests that won't retract, mismatched cowl covers, seats that won't retract upright on their own, damaged ACP's, and anything else that isn't working as installed. This is their airline, make them fix it or document it. We should not be moving airplanes that are not legal to fly.
This is your job and your career. It's time to quite fighting amongst ourselves and time to take the fight to the enemy. Grow a pair, properly preflight your airplane, don't extend, and quite picking up open time. This is going to get ugly so be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there.
FSHF
#230
That was six years ago and my goatskin leather jacket still looks like new.
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