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Old 10-02-2015, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757 View Post
Still believe all of Hulas' lies I see..
Now, why would management lie about the one thing they are concerned most with? I could see them lying about us doing bad when we're doing good, but the inverse? What does it get them?

Whenever we fall below performance standards, we are told that we need to do a better job of getting out on-time. When we are told we are doing a good job with performance (like last month when we all got a bonus for all but AA completion factor), I believe we are doing pretty good. At least good enough that Hulas, the guy who is famously stingy when it comes to giving out free money, decides to give everyone a bonus.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:20 AM
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You're an idiot. Mesa's contract was a disaster with barely any improvements and multiple concessions. It would have taken them from last place to...well, last place. Our contract took us from middle of the road to 2nd best in the industry. Oh, and we have another shot at improving it further with PBS. Go back to your bridge and enjoy making less money than me.

Your contract isn't better than xjt and air Wisconsin. So it's definitely not second best. Your contract is average.


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I would say XJT and TSA are a wash. There are things that are better for XJT and some that are better for TSA. For example, TSA has better pay rates both captain and FO, better COLA increases (1.5% vs 0), same per diem but a scheduled increase, better sick payout for reserves (3.75/3.95 vs 4), faster rate of increase in vacation accrual (XJT 2nd tier, ASA 3rd tier)



XJT/ASA has better min days (2 XJT/3.86 ASA vs only reserve min day), split sick accrual per certificate (5 XJT or 2.75/3/3.25 ASA vs 3/3.5/4), Min days off only on the XJT side, vacation pay (3.5/3.75 vs 3.25), better health insurance caps (XJT 25%/ASA 30% vs 29%single/34% other), better retirement at XJT but worse at ASA until year 7.



With the value increase over the next 3 years and perpetual stagnation at ASA/XJT with the JCBA, I think the TSA contract has more value. Right now it's probably a wash, but I think it leans toward TSA. Some of the areas XJT/ASA is better could be fixed with the PBS agreement as well, min days as an example.

Do I need to post the whole comparison again or are you just going to cherry pick? And even the very few things you did pick, are not all better. You conveniently throw in ASA, who is more of a wash with TSA, in order to inflate the comparison.


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Old 10-02-2015, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets View Post
Your contract isn't better than xjt and air Wisconsin. So it's definitely not second best. Your contract is average.


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It's not better than Air Wisconsin. Using the numbers above, I do believe it is better than XJT. Those are contract numbers from ALPA. The TSA payrates for the Captains are $2-$4 (XJT) and $3-$6 (ASA) higher than yours. For FOs, it's not even worth comparing. If our contract is average, then so is yours.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets View Post
Your contract isn't better than xjt and air Wisconsin. So it's definitely not second best. Your contract is average.





Do I need to post the whole comparison again or are you just going to cherry pick? And even the very few things you did pick, are not all better. You conveniently throw in ASA, who is more of a wash with TSA, in order to inflate the comparison.


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Sure. Post it. I'd be curious to see what numbers you are using. Yes, our reserve language is weaker. That isn't a debate here. Other than that, the big differences and the things we changed, we changed to make them better than or a wash with the XJT/ASA contract. And why did I post ASA? Because if you go work for XJT/ASA, it could be a contract you end up working under. Unless, of course, the company agrees to toss the ASA contract and everyone works for the XJT contract.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
Now, why would management lie about the one thing they are concerned most with? I could see them lying about us doing bad when we're doing good, but the inverse? What does it get them?

Whenever we fall below performance standards, we are told that we need to do a better job of getting out on-time. When we are told we are doing a good job with performance (like last month when we all got a bonus for all but AA completion factor), I believe we are doing pretty good. At least good enough that Hulas, the guy who is famously stingy when it comes to giving out free money, decides to give everyone a bonus.
You have DEFINITELY proven yourself on here to be a company guy.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:43 AM
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You have DEFINITELY proven yourself on here to be a company guy.
You are literally just saying words. I'm not a company guy. I'm a fact guy and those are facts. I'm sorry that I don't live in a fantasy world like you do. If I was a company guy, I'd be blaming pilots for sick calls and on time performance. I'd be bargaining for concessions and condemning the actions of Mesa and RAH. Nope, you can check my history.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:45 AM
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Sorry, but most would agree that you are a company guy! Just look at most of your posts!
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Old 10-02-2015, 11:03 AM
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Sorry, but most would agree that you are a company guy! Just look at most of your posts!
Lots of pilots voted in favor of the extension. I'm voting no for PBS unless it sweetens the pot. Does that make me a company guy? Again, I will make more than anyone of my longevity at XJT even if they had made Captain.
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Old 10-02-2015, 11:49 AM
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If being based in ord is the most important to you, I would not come here. Ord is very senior, they only need like 25 pilots on each side and all of CAs basically live there. I would not lateral with 4.5 years of seniority from your place to commute at Tsa.
Yikes, that's not very good. I may have to rethink this plan. Do you think STL is the best place to go to fly left seat under the CQFO program?

Anybody on here commute from ORD to STL? It looks like there is a flight almost every hour, but don't know if it's always full or one can reasonably expect some seat availability.

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Old 10-02-2015, 11:56 AM
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Yikes, that's not very good. I may have to rethink this plan. Do you think STL is the best place to go to fly left seat under the CQFO program?

Anybody on here commute from ORD to STL? It looks like there is a flight almost every hour, but don't know if it's always full or one can reasonably expect some seat availability.

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ORD to STL can be brutal. I know we fluctuate quite a bit as far as frequency so listing and getting the jump can be daunting, especially with us and G7 having domiciles here and an increasing amount of commuters due to the expansion of the AA flying here. Also, with STL closing as a hub for AA, lots of those guys are catching rides to ORD on the AA metal which limits spots on those flights. We also see a lot of full or oversold flights. If you can choose, I honestly think your best shot would be MDW on Southwest because most of their airplanes have two jumpseats and STL is a mini "hub" for them. I can't attest to recently, but I know it can be a struggle.

Also, don't forget that the company is advertising an RDU domicile and I would estimate a solid chunk of AA flying gets shifted that way.
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