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Denver has been damn-near stagnant for 6 months. Several XR's have been added to the fleet in that time. A good chunk of Denver flying is currently staffed out of STL. If this does become ORD 2.0 there's gonna be a boatload of pi$$ed-off new(ish) guys that chose TSA with the expectation of being home based; and unfortunately we aren't in a position to be pi$$ing off pilots like it's the good-ole days. I hope it's not the case, but I'm becoming more concerned every month.
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I have been at TSA about one year and I am trying to figure out why we can't grow. Every month the standing bid comes out and it has been between 500-530 since I was hired. Our contract seems pretty good in terms of regionals. I hear skywest is running classes of 100+, Republic, and PSA are filling classes as well. Is it that our recruiting department is that poor? Is it because we fly 50 seat jets? Our classes seem to be between 5-10 per month. Why is skywest getting 100 plus and we can only get 5 people per month?
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Base location, size of company, CFCQ program, advertising 1250 hours TT as a requirement. These are some of the things that caused me not to consider them. But I am sure others have their own reasons.
I have been at TSA about one year and I am trying to figure out why we can't grow. Every month the standing bid comes out and it has been between 500-530 since I was hired. Our contract seems pretty good in terms of regionals. I hear skywest is running classes of 100+, Republic, and PSA are filling classes as well. Is it that our recruiting department is that poor? Is it because we fly 50 seat jets? Our classes seem to be between 5-10 per month. Why is skywest getting 100 plus and we can only get 5 people per month?
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I have been at TSA about one year and I am trying to figure out why we can't grow. Every month the standing bid comes out and it has been between 500-530 since I was hired. Our contract seems pretty good in terms of regionals. I hear skywest is running classes of 100+, Republic, and PSA are filling classes as well. Is it that our recruiting department is that poor? Is it because we fly 50 seat jets? Our classes seem to be between 5-10 per month. Why is skywest getting 100 plus and we can only get 5 people per month?
Also now these days younger crowd equals technology driven. We seen a younger crowd chase the shiny airplanes, instead of older airplanes better contract.
I have been at TSA about one year and I am trying to figure out why we can't grow. Every month the standing bid comes out and it has been between 500-530 since I was hired. Our contract seems pretty good in terms of regionals. I hear skywest is running classes of 100+, Republic, and PSA are filling classes as well. Is it that our recruiting department is that poor? Is it because we fly 50 seat jets? Our classes seem to be between 5-10 per month. Why is skywest getting 100 plus and we can only get 5 people per month?
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I have been at TSA about one year and I am trying to figure out why we can't grow. Every month the standing bid comes out and it has been between 500-530 since I was hired. Our contract seems pretty good in terms of regionals. I hear skywest is running classes of 100+, Republic, and PSA are filling classes as well. Is it that our recruiting department is that poor? Is it because we fly 50 seat jets? Our classes seem to be between 5-10 per month. Why is skywest getting 100 plus and we can only get 5 people per month?
Provided this is true; with the problem to staff classes, how drastically could this delay my movement at the company as well as the stability?
TSA is my first choice, (over envoy and compass) as I don't have "shiny jet syndrome" and am drawn to the hiring for both growth and attrition. I am wondering if anyone thinks that I am missing something here regarding TSA's future.
Thanks!
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As far as the size of the company, recruiting efforts really aren't that bad...I've chosen to look at it as a percentage. When looking at TSA it is important to note that we are a relatively small company. The new contract is good, but as always and not unlike anywhere else there is always room for improvement. Back to recruiting, lately the company is averaging around 20 new hires per month. Yeah we're not at the 80-100 Skywest is getting, but we're also 1/10 the size. 20/500 pilots versus 100/4500. Now look at this as a percentage of the pilot group, each month we're hiring roughly 4% of our group and Skywest is a little above 2% of the pilot group. Quite honestly TSA could never handle the burden of 50+ pilots/month with the current volume of instructors, sim availability, check airmen etc. looking over our master seniority list and new hires, we are losing pilots to attrition, for each 20 that we get on the bottom (new hires) we are losing 10 from the top.
Things to come...the MEC is currently negotiating PBS with management. Things to look for in this would be a higher first year pay (yes management knows they need to raise it yet again to keep recruiting, and probably don't want to scrap all the "highest first year pay" propaganda), commuter hotels, and modest raises across the board. The last contract had significant improvements on the low end for new hires, but not much for people towards the top of the seniority list. Thus PBS is the last bargaining chip for everyone else.
Overall TSA is a good place to be right now, upgrade times are low. We have one of the best contracts in the regional industry, and management knows what needs to be done to keep the hiring trends and moral up. That being said, by no means is it perfect and like EVERY other regional there are things that could definitely be improved upon.
Things to come...the MEC is currently negotiating PBS with management. Things to look for in this would be a higher first year pay (yes management knows they need to raise it yet again to keep recruiting, and probably don't want to scrap all the "highest first year pay" propaganda), commuter hotels, and modest raises across the board. The last contract had significant improvements on the low end for new hires, but not much for people towards the top of the seniority list. Thus PBS is the last bargaining chip for everyone else.
Overall TSA is a good place to be right now, upgrade times are low. We have one of the best contracts in the regional industry, and management knows what needs to be done to keep the hiring trends and moral up. That being said, by no means is it perfect and like EVERY other regional there are things that could definitely be improved upon.
Well, TSA won't have to worry about any MRJ deliveries any time soon.
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As far as the size of the company, recruiting efforts really aren't that bad...I've chosen to look at it as a percentage. When looking at TSA it is important to note that we are a relatively small company. The new contract is good, but as always and not unlike anywhere else there is always room for improvement. Back to recruiting, lately the company is averaging around 20 new hires per month. Yeah we're not at the 80-100 Skywest is getting, but we're also 1/10 the size. 20/500 pilots versus 100/4500. Now look at this as a percentage of the pilot group, each month we're hiring roughly 4% of our group and Skywest is a little above 2% of the pilot group. Quite honestly TSA could never handle the burden of 50+ pilots/month with the current volume of instructors, sim availability, check airmen etc. looking over our master seniority list and new hires, we are losing pilots to attrition, for each 20 that we get on the bottom (new hires) we are losing 10 from the top.
Things to come...the MEC is currently negotiating PBS with management. Things to look for in this would be a higher first year pay (yes management knows they need to raise it yet again to keep recruiting, and probably don't want to scrap all the "highest first year pay" propaganda), commuter hotels, and modest raises across the board. The last contract had significant improvements on the low end for new hires, but not much for people towards the top of the seniority list. Thus PBS is the last bargaining chip for everyone else.
Overall TSA is a good place to be right now, upgrade times are low. We have one of the best contracts in the regional industry, and management knows what needs to be done to keep the hiring trends and moral up. That being said, by no means is it perfect and like EVERY other regional there are things that could definitely be improved upon.
Things to come...the MEC is currently negotiating PBS with management. Things to look for in this would be a higher first year pay (yes management knows they need to raise it yet again to keep recruiting, and probably don't want to scrap all the "highest first year pay" propaganda), commuter hotels, and modest raises across the board. The last contract had significant improvements on the low end for new hires, but not much for people towards the top of the seniority list. Thus PBS is the last bargaining chip for everyone else.
Overall TSA is a good place to be right now, upgrade times are low. We have one of the best contracts in the regional industry, and management knows what needs to be done to keep the hiring trends and moral up. That being said, by no means is it perfect and like EVERY other regional there are things that could definitely be improved upon.
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As far as the size of the company, recruiting efforts really aren't that bad...I've chosen to look at it as a percentage. When looking at TSA it is important to note that we are a relatively small company. The new contract is good, but as always and not unlike anywhere else there is always room for improvement. Back to recruiting, lately the company is averaging around 20 new hires per month. Yeah we're not at the 80-100 Skywest is getting, but we're also 1/10 the size. 20/500 pilots versus 100/4500. Now look at this as a percentage of the pilot group, each month we're hiring roughly 4% of our group and Skywest is a little above 2% of the pilot group. Quite honestly TSA could never handle the burden of 50+ pilots/month with the current volume of instructors, sim availability, check airmen etc. looking over our master seniority list and new hires, we are losing pilots to attrition, for each 20 that we get on the bottom (new hires) we are losing 10 from the top.
Things to come...the MEC is currently negotiating PBS with management. Things to look for in this would be a higher first year pay (yes management knows they need to raise it yet again to keep recruiting, and probably don't want to scrap all the "highest first year pay" propaganda), commuter hotels, and modest raises across the board. The last contract had significant improvements on the low end for new hires, but not much for people towards the top of the seniority list. Thus PBS is the last bargaining chip for everyone else.
Overall TSA is a good place to be right now, upgrade times are low. We have one of the best contracts in the regional industry, and management knows what needs to be done to keep the hiring trends and moral up. That being said, by no means is it perfect and like EVERY other regional there are things that could definitely be improved upon.
Things to come...the MEC is currently negotiating PBS with management. Things to look for in this would be a higher first year pay (yes management knows they need to raise it yet again to keep recruiting, and probably don't want to scrap all the "highest first year pay" propaganda), commuter hotels, and modest raises across the board. The last contract had significant improvements on the low end for new hires, but not much for people towards the top of the seniority list. Thus PBS is the last bargaining chip for everyone else.
Overall TSA is a good place to be right now, upgrade times are low. We have one of the best contracts in the regional industry, and management knows what needs to be done to keep the hiring trends and moral up. That being said, by no means is it perfect and like EVERY other regional there are things that could definitely be improved upon.
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