BUDDHA

Actually this is a great approach!!! But Mr. Unity, bashing my representation here is going to get you nothing!!! still even when this looks like it could be a great thing you keep saying negative stuff about us. We know how you think!! You think we are second class and you'll never want to be related to us!!

You want a positive outcome, you need to change your tune!! We know the true colors of the FAPA leader and his hard ball playing....

Sincerely a Local357 member!!!

SF340guy

So RPC Unity,

Who are you? Name and location on the IMSL. If I support you, what assurances do we have that the FAPA lawsuit will be dropped, especially if our only knowledge of the "RPA" is a post on airline pilot central? A reliable, credible and accountable website (sarcasm).

These are serious questions, that deserve answers. As you say, we only get one vote.

RPC Unity

Dear Loyal Member,

I went back and read all of my posts and could find nothing that remotely reads as "bashing", or even negative.

The posts were factual references to IBT Local 357 financials. The fact that the financials paint the 357 in a negative light is not bashing. It is simply the unfortunate reality of paying your dues to a 1.4 million member union that consist of only 6000 pilots.

If you were offended, you should address that emotion to the people that are taking your hard earned money.

One more point. If you are happy with the Local 357, the RPC is not interested in taking them away. The RPC supports your right to choose your representation. The RPC will also support your Local 357 if you decide to vote for the RPC.

This is a win/win for all 3000 pilots.

Quagmire

I'll be voting for the smart choice. In this instance, under our current set of circumstances, that choice is Teamsters Local Union No. 357.

Good luck to you though.

RPC Unity

Fair questions. I am an Airbus FO smack dab in the middle of the IMSL.

I am not asking you to support me personally, I am asking you to learn about a representation structure that can actually function for a very unique airline structure.

The RPC has mailed information to every pilot, you should be receiving that shortly if you have not already.

The RPC has a website and message board. My real name will be available on that message board for everyone to read. I am not going to hide behind anonymity. This election is too important.

Lets talk about this using facts, not emotion.

Regarding the lawsuit, the RPC has stated they will "prevent continuous litigation regarding SLI implementation or Duty of Fair representation issues".

I don't think it can get any clearer than that for an answer.

If that is not satisfactory, you can log on to rahpilots.com and address that concern directly.

Take the time to learn about this CHOICE.

Vote RPC

ATCsaidDoWhat

The USAPA comparison is similar to what the IBT 357 is doing today. They are attempting to control the destiny of some of the pilots on the list simply because they outnumber that group.

Here is the big difference between the RPC and Local 357.

The IBT is demanding everything and offering NOTHING in return.

RPC is offering everything and asking for nothing in return.

RPC structure allows the IBT members to remain IBT if they choose. The RPC will also combine several committees, making them more effective and more cost efficient for both parties. Ironically, the genesis for the "Council" structure is originally an IBT concept. This council structure is already in place in two other IBT properties.

The RPC has already pledged to do the following;

"• Implement the Eischen Award
• Prevent continuous litigation regarding SLI implementation or Duty of Fair representation issues
• Develop joint provisions to prevent “whipsaw” of the two groups by RAH management
• Develop a common basis to address issues such as scope and struck work to allow the pilots of each
group to respect the legitimate rights of the other
• Coordinate the efforts of each organization’s committees for the betterment of the entire pilot group."

The IBT Local 357 is attempting a hostile takeover. We already have enough hostility at RAH.

This is really a Win/Win for all 3000 pilots.

Take your time and learn about the RPC.

Keep asking questions.[/QUOTE]


Reminds me of, "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is..."

You gotta be kidding. Your guys went to DC and demanded that you be allowed to keep your group seperate from the rest, demanded the SLI be overturned and you take everyone elses jobs and toss Midwest and Republic pilots to the street.

The same guys who went to the meeting with the IBT, promised to get "back to them" and never did.

You went to ALPA to get them to front for you before and that didn't work either. And you still think SWA is gonna come in and buy you away.

RPC Unity is a joke. It's a few Frontier guys who think they should take other peoples jobs. And if those people don't roll over...they file a lawsuit to try and take the jobs anyway. You know....the lawsuit you filed last week.

Frontier was in a death spiral before and now Bedford wants more cuts from you; and your solution is to run a shame vote drive and try to take other pilots jobs.

Mulva

Republic Pilots Council

Meet me there for some real discussion.

IMSL # 1660

Mulva

You have the option to keep that smart choice even under the RPC structure. This is not about the IBT or FAPA, it is about a representation structure that can help create unity vs. dissension. I think we can all agree that it would be best for our "ONE" company to survive and prosper with a healthy labor environment. RPC is an opportunity to help ensure this occurs.

F9 Driver

How is RPC trying to take other pilots' jobs? Reminds me of "I can't believe my sales manager authorized me to sell this cherry Pinto to you at this price. It's only available for the next 30 minutes, so you better act fast!"

ATC, are you concerned about Midwest pilot jobs? If so, why did you bail on them in their time of need and take the job with IBT National (while IBT was actively doing the flying once performed by you and your ALPA brethren no less, AND aid / abet IBT in trying to staple your fellow YXers to the bottom of their list in the process)?

The idea of being forced into IBT is as repugnant to FAPA members as being forced into FAPA would be to IBT members. RPC is a middle ground that allows separate representatives but unified representation. Why not wait until you've heard the details and satisfied your curiosity before casting your vote?

All you do by rushing to vote today is foreclose options that you currently have available.

atr42flyer

So if RPC is voted in, where does that leave the rest of RAH on their current contract negotiations?

would the RPC then make us wait out until 2015 when the FAPA contract is up? would the two contracts be amalgated (sp) sooner or later?

Not sure I like the idea of "seperate but equal" that didn't work out to well during segregation did it!