Grumble

I’ll let my college buddy whose one of the lead engineers on the thing know you’re clearly ahead of them on the program.

Do you moonlight for Boeing’s marketing/propaganda dept?

blockplus

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/united-details-more-737-max-10-features-438789/

BoJet

There is also a complete lack of basis for your claim that 747/777 pay has been rounded down.
Since the joint contract, UAL 747/777 Pay has been very near the top of the industry if not #1. To think that the pay would have been appreciably higher than “Industry leading” if it was unbanded is “naïve”.
And yes, your 747 pay took a large hit in bankruptcy. But wasn’t it proportional to the percentages of pay cut in other fleets?
And I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but the 764 only has about 20 less seats than some 772s we are flying around.

davessn763

And yet we pay the 767-300 83% of 787-8 pay which has only 2% more seats.

cadetdrivr

It doesn’t really matter if the 767-400 was “rounded up” or the 747/777 was “rounded down.” They clearly don’t belong in the same band.

And that specific banding was done with ulterior motivations which both UAL ALPA and CAL ALPA agreed to for very different reasons.

But, if that actually is fair banding then there’s a bunch of 767-300, A319, and 737-700 pilots that will be looking for futher corrections in the next contract.

blockplus

And over 100000 lbs heavier and flys .86 vs .81 so a trip across the pond on the 767 takes 20 min longer to fly. The 767 pays about the same on a per trip basis.

DashTrash

Polish the turd more!!! The MAX 10 is a joke! I thought that the Guppy insanity would end with the ER. I am wrong!!! This is what happens when people that do not fly airplanes make decisions on airplanes. Boeing is in deep trouble!!! Airbus is taking them out to the woodshed!

Dave Fitzgerald

For the moment, last week, Airbus announced that they will not be doing another update on the A320. For now, the NEO is it. The new version would have been a true replacement for the 757. Then Boeing would have really been in a pickle.

cadetdrivr

Looking at the 321 NEO backlog compared to the MAX -9 and -10 I can see why Airbus is not in a hurry, especially now that the 321LR is in flight test.

Itsajob

Neither the max or neo is a joke. They are just machines that we are paid good money to move from point to point. Until there is a clean sheet design they are all we have. Being that this company is heavily weighted towards Boeing, we shouldn’t be surprised that they picked the max. It is an efficient machine that will do the job well and generate revenue. The max 10 will never do all that the 757 can do, but it will do the vast majority of it while burning much less fuel. The 737 isn’t exactly a pilots airplane, it’s just a workhorse, and what we would rather fly just doesn’t matter. Even if the customers would prefer one over the other (most don’t even know what they’re sitting in), they don’t seem willing to vote with their dollars. They shop price and schedule.

Also, being that both manufacturers have significant backlogs, I don’t think either is in any real trouble or risk of going away.