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Old 04-06-2017 | 05:27 PM
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3 SC so far this month, used all 3 times. Sled made this sound like vacation, what gives? I'm supposed to be working in my yard all day....
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Old 04-06-2017 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
I'm not a TK guy, but my hat is off to 99 percent of the PI's who I've had over the years. And, my whiners comment was meant to be sarcastic and was intentionally accompanied by both a winking emoji and a big smile. I've been on reserve most of my 18 years here, so I've got a pretty good grip on it, the good and the bad.

From The Washington Post's, Style Invitational

sarchasm - the gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it

The challenge was to make a new word by altered by adding, subtracting, or changing only one letter and supplying a new definition.
Yea yea. I got your sarcasm in your singular post " you whiners" with emojis (and I don't even know how to add emojis)

I was commenting on your subsequent post where you mentioned that some on this forum label reserve complainers as whiners

I don't think that was sarcasm. When I tried sarcasm and irony in high school English lit, my teacher scolded me and said it was dangerous to try and usually fails. If your second comment was meant as sarcasm, I think it fails.

I stand by the proper label of the reserve forum posters who complain about reserve. They are whining. Pure and simple
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Old 04-06-2017 | 05:48 PM
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And of course you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

It will be interesting to see now that the company is aggressively reshuffling a huge part of the deck (not to mention the unintended consequences of 50+ Tomahawk missiles flying into Syria to stem the rapid unwinding of the Trump mystique) how many line holders will get their first taste of reserve duty, and how many of them will find elements of it distasteful. One need look no further than what recently happened to the G line in DC (777) and now in SFO (777) than to get an idea of how many guys will suddenly find themselves on Short Call.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
And of course you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

It will be interesting to see now that the company is aggressively reshuffling a huge part of the deck (not to mention the unintended consequences of 50+ Tomahawk missiles flying into Syria to stem the rapid unwinding of the Trump mystique) how many line holders will get their first taste of reserve duty, and how many of them will find elements of it distasteful. One need look no further than what recently happened to the G line in DC (777) and now in SFO (777) than to get an idea of how many guys will suddenly find themselves on Short Call.

You know what???????


Just a month or two ago, right here on this United page, right here on APC. Some ignoramuses made a comment as to the effect that we don't need to fix reserve BECAUSE anybody who's on reserve did it to themselves therefore deserve what they get. My point EXACTLY was that; NO!! sometimes when things aren't good with the airline industry that you can become totally accidentally a reserve guy for a LONG LONG time against your will. That is why reserve needs to be fixed.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 06:00 PM
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Hoss, you whiner!

Thank you for reiterating a timely and very valid point. Things are about to get interesting.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 06:32 PM
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you boys do like to sit around the whiskey barrel and pat each other's back!
again. slowly class. just because reserve sucks doesn't mean ppl who whine about it aren't whiners. they are. i was when i was on reserve. and if forced back on, i'll surely whine again.
so go ahead and hit the forums and wailing walls and layover pubs in your sneakers and complain (whine) about how reserve sucks.
it's still whining. and the 80% (changing all the time and whoever they are) are not going to give up contractual benefits just because the (current) 20% on reserve are whining

ok. another sip. go ahead. type away
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Old 04-06-2017 | 06:41 PM
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Most of the people posting on this thread are currently on reserve (it is labeled "Reserve Thread" after all) and are attempting to offer suggestive criticisms of how to improve the next contract. Others choose to whine about these contributors and the whole idea of improving the contract while they are enjoy line holder status.

It is what it is.
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Old 04-06-2017 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Most of the people posting on this thread are currently on reserve (it is labeled "Reserve Thread" after all) and are attempting to offer suggestive criticisms of how to improve the next contract. Others choose to whine about these contributors and the whole idea of improving the contract while they are enjoy line holder status.

It is what it is.
if by "improve the next contract" you mean make reserve a better deal while making lineholding a worse deal - then yes, it is what it is, as you say.
if you don't understand that those trades go hand in hand, i'm wasting time discussing this here with you. but i suspect you do understand labor contract economics.
and nice try switching the labels.
those who whine about reserve are whiners.
those who call them out are merely speaking bluntly. not whining. i see you self- admire your own believed powers to be clever on a forum. but it doesn't work here. whining is whining. calling out whiners is not whining. nice try but no prize today

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Old 04-06-2017 | 07:21 PM
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This message is hidden because buscappy is on your ignore list.

Who drug him off his senior pillar? I assume it's our fault that the G line in SFO and DCA 777 keep getting more senior? Reserve is a choice why should we fix it .
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Old 04-06-2017 | 09:46 PM
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The point of the thread is, and many here are on reserve, that minimal changes could be made with large increases in quality of life on reserve. Minimal. Minimal negotiating capital. Minimal, for large gains. That's a win.

Also minimal impact on the companies side. Improve transparency, reduce crew desk abuse, just because they can. Almost no impact on the operation, and much more livable. It's not about taking from line holders. It's about stopping the abuse. Sounds a lot like why some voted for or against the last contract arguments.
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