although this was, Lee, a "whine about reserve" forum and you went and got all business-like.

 

No, just facts. But thanks.

Oldmako has much wisdom and experience to offer. It's just occasionally skewed by a personal agenda.

As I politely council many PDR submitters, your ignorance of the contract doesn't make it illegal.

Your union gives you a color coded contract that had functional links to joint interpretations as well as an interactive index at the end of it. Heck, the company now even loads that version to the content locker.

Much of the whining I encounter is baseless. It's based mostly on ignorance of the rules of engagement.

RSV improvements might better be done through establishing limits on daily quotas for LSR SC FSB. Not necessarily changing the whole system.

It will all have a value in the end game. Where do we as group want to spend our capital in Section 6 is the question.

For instance, with all the base closings, realignment of flying going on, I'd sacrifice some of pay raise to make the company pony up fair market value for a pilot forced out of a category after say three months on the market.

What would that cost us? No idea.

Is it the right thing to do? IMO yes.

Now, do all pilots feel that way? No.

It's all about your personal perspective. Dean's (OldMako) is from a reality long gone.

Welcome to the new world.

Lee

 

I'm finishing a 4-day trip tomorrow that was assigned to me while on reserve where I'm scheduled to land at 2340. Also, tomorrow is the last day my scheduled reserve block of days.

If my flight is delayed (flying out of SFO so probably will be) and I don't land until Monday, then I'll be landing on a day off.

My question: is there a certain period of time I must work into Monday before UAL will restore my day off or give me the 4 hours of add pay (1 min, 1 hr, etc...)?

 

there is but i don't recall
read that reassignment section. it's in there.

 

Read your contract. Otherwise PDR.alpa.org

Chose the Hotline option.

I wouldn't recommend answers from this forum for contract legality issues.

You have after submission the resources you pay dues for, SSC, negotiating committee and grievance just to name a few.

And the resources to help get something not right fixed.

Just a suggestion from a dude that takes those inquiries.

Lee

 

Just one minute for a reserve. 4 hours for a line holder.

 

Say it's 2 minutes for RSV......And then what are the options?

Which section of the CBA covers it? Min days off?

Expand on a useless answer and give guidance.

And I haven't seen the PDR hit my inbox yet. I just flew in from LHR so will probably not handle it. That said, it will be handled by those that know the CBA and QCd by even more.

Lee

 

Good info. And there is little liability to calling after 1800 to do the required acknowledgment of a reserve assignment. If they used this two-way contact to make a different asssignment the earliest it could be would be 1200 according to the UPA. But no contact before 1800. Technique: only acknowledge a flying assignment in CCS, and call to acknowledge a reserve assignment as close to, but after, 1800 as you can because once you acknowledge it you're released to the assignment. You don't have to answer phone and, if other assignments come open after 1800 you're not contactable for them.

 

Since I being hired in 2000, I've held a line ~8 months total. Maybe as high as 10 months. I'd definitely like to see reserve improvements. But I'll say this one more time: what one reserve considers to be an onerous reserve rule, many times there's another reserve who loves that rule. So while 'fixing' reserve sounds great, different reserve pilots are going to want different 'fixes' to reserve.

An example of this is short call. Commuters hate it. Locals LOVE it. And the current LC to SC conversion is more lucrative than the old pure LC or SC lines, especially since scheduling has found SC to be more flexible than LC.

There aren't many (any?) no-cost changes to reserve that will be considered improvements by everyone.

 

I'm local and I hate SC. The list of reasons is too long to list. I get it. Some may disagree with me. And your right, if you don't live local, you might as well move. There's very few days outside of flying days where I do not sit SC.