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Old 05-09-2017 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Don't forget the 40 pax left at the gate for weight restriction.
I'm sure the load planners have already thought about this. It won't be doing long enough flights to have consistent performance issues. Probably just ORD or IAH
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Old 05-09-2017 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
I'm sure the load planners have already thought about this. It won't be doing long enough flights to have consistent performance issues. Probably just ORD or IAH
FWIW-I believe it is doing DEN in place of the 757-300, which is full every time I do that flight
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Old 05-09-2017 | 07:06 AM
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The 757-300 still has shorter take of rolls and shorter landing roll outs than a 900 or ER. Better brakes and spoilers!
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Old 05-09-2017 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
The 757-300 still has shorter take of rolls and shorter landing roll outs than a 900 or ER. Better brakes and spoilers!
Saw a 300 roll out of DCA the other day like it was child's play. Love that machine.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
I fly the -900ER into LGA regularly for Delta. The only two destinations I'm currently aware of are ATL and MCO. Also, I have yet to be in a weight restricted situation. Always doing high thrust and flap settings, however.


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Do you guys do the flaps 5 go around nonsense with ludicrous speed target speeds? How is it going in there when it's snowing?

Guppy approach to Denver in the winter:
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Old 05-09-2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
I fly the -900ER into LGA regularly for Delta. The only two destinations I'm currently aware of are ATL and MCO. Also, I have yet to be in a weight restricted situation. Always doing high thrust and flap settings, however.
I haven't seen LGA much the last 10 or so years. And it's apples to oranges, but pre 9/11 DAL took the L-1011 and 764 in/out of there also with just those 2 destinations IIRC.

As they taxied out of the alley you'd practically get blown into Flushing bay if you were at the blast fence.

Originally Posted by DashTrash
The 757-300 still has shorter take of rolls and shorter landing roll outs than a 900 or ER. Better brakes and spoilers!
Ain't called extra runway for nuthin'
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Old 05-09-2017 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Do you guys do the flaps 5 go around nonsense with ludicrous speed target speeds? How is it going in there when it's snowing?



Guppy approach to Denver in the winter:



Flaps 15 always for go-arounds for us. But, with headwind corrections our Vref speeds can be corrected upwards to 20 knots additional speed.


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Old 05-09-2017 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Do you guys do the flaps 5 go around nonsense with ludicrous speed target speeds? How is it going in there when it's snowing?

Guppy approach to Denver in the winter:
I wouldn't imagine the alternate go around procedure would ever be needed into LGA as it is used to meet landing climb limits which shouldn't be an issue at a sea level airport. However, I have been wrong before.
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Old 05-09-2017 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
I haven't seen LGA much the last 10 or so years. And it's apples to oranges, but pre 9/11 DAL took the L-1011 and 764 in/out of there also with just those 2 destinations IIRC.

As they taxied out of the alley you'd practically get blown into Flushing bay if you were at the blast fence.



Ain't called extra runway for nuthin'
I thought the "ER" stood for "Entire Runway"!!
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Old 05-09-2017 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
I don't see the big deal. We fly the 900 into markets with short runways all the time. ORD is a hub with 7500' runways. Of course you won't be doing any transcons but those aren't allowed anyway. What am I missing?
That depends upon who you talk to. Chuck Yeager or Captain Sullenberger and Jeffrey Skiles? No one is ever forced to accept an approach to a short runway in ORD when there are other (always and better) options. Try that at LGA.

Short runways coupled with lousy brakes, high approach speeds, circling approaches, tail-strike techniques... What could go wrong? I wonder what FOQA data shows?

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