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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
(Post 2412614)
Just probably prepping for bumping DCA 777, West Coast 787 if enough 787 folks don't bid SFO 777 or DEN 756 in a future vacancy.
And closing LAX 777, IAH 777, CLE, and GUM. |
Originally Posted by Consuela
(Post 2412679)
The story I've heard from a reasonably reliable source:
1. The company is slightly OVERstaffed but pilots aren't staffed where they need to be (IAH 777 and IAH 756, specifically). 2. A lot of "surplus" pilots from the -400. 3. TK backed up because of the bumps. All of that along with Kirby's claim of increasing block hours without additional hiring. The sky is not falling (yet), but frustrating to see classes cancelled. Wait a week and we'll be back too hiring 1200 this year. Though I doubt we will see 1200 next year. But 500-600 is a good number. Delta has a new fleet coming (CS's) and A350's so it's understandable that they are hiring more than us. Years ago, we were hiring more. Just the typical game~ Hang in there guys & gals... Motch |
Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2412843)
This..
Though I doubt we will see 1200 next year. But 500-600 is a good number. Delta has a new fleet coming (CS's) and A350's so it's understandable that they are hiring more than us. Years ago, we were hiring more. Just the typical game~ Hang in there guys & gals... Motch Compare that to guys here claiming to have a month or two off at a time. I've noticed a difference in higher reserve utilization this summer compared to last. I expect with the reduction in hiring next summer will be even worse on reserves. |
Please note that the express fleet plan has gone from 477 total planes YE2017 to 515 at the end of this year.
That was a -17 net changed to a +21. In case you're wondering where the jobs went. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Winston
(Post 2412744)
I've never understood this line of reasoning for the following reasons: training capability is fleet specific, so what does the huge load the 777/787 fleet groups have to swallow have to do with newhire training? It may indeed be that the widebody instructor ranks are being stretched to capacity, but what are the 73/Bus instructors and simulators doing other than their standard CQ business? In the last displacement I recall very few widebody FOs moving to the left seat of a narrowbody, it seemed like most just took up the same seat in the 777/787.
If anything I'd imagine the narrowbody LCA and SIM instructors are a bit bored waiting for BI classes to start running again. We are doing pretty good on 737/320 FOs at the moment maybe a little understaffed but manageable. If you read the SSC reports over the summer there is less than 20 crew attributed cancelations a month, thats pretty good. The old adage applies that we can't upgrade unless we have people behind you to fill your spot, but in this case it is reversed, we can't hire unless we have an upgrade class to put you in. The 737/320 FOs have nowhere to go, so there is no need to train more. The company cannot run a massive vacancy bid right now because they can't train all the pilots that are upgrading to a WB. The other forum has a displacements rights question from a guy who was awarded 777 transition in FEB and is just now going to school. Now you could argue that the company is falling behind for next summer and I would agree with you. They could hire and overstaff the 737/320 FO ranks, just waiting for the backlog up the food chain to clear out. I don't think there is enough CAs for next summer, but again upgrading to CA will open WB FO slots that they can't train. Maybe the Spring classes are going to have 60+ in each class? All I know is that they are hiring 30 737 instructors for a reason and it isn't to have them sit around doing CQ. |
Anyone that thinks Guam is going to close, barring a missile attack, has never been there. It would be a pretty big operation to close.
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Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2412843)
This..
Though I doubt we will see 1200 next year. But 500-600 is a good number. Delta has a new fleet coming (CS's) and A350's so it's understandable that they are hiring more than us. Years ago, we were hiring more. Just the typical game~ Hang in there guys & gals... Motch |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 2412927)
except the 350 is a 747 replacement so no.
No 350s More 773s 12 more I would say and 321s and RR engines for the 787-1 is the agreement |
With 150+ folks in the pool, they are interviewing CPP flows from Express at a nice pace. Saw it for myself and helped a few of them.
Yeah, I know they hire till they furlough. But they also didn't build TK for no reason. I am mildly optimistic. |
Originally Posted by Dragon7
(Post 2413042)
With 150+ folks in the pool, they are interviewing CPP flows from Express at a nice pace. Saw it for myself and helped a few of them.
Yeah, I know they hire till they furlough. But they also didn't build TK for no reason. I am mildly optimistic. 2) Summer is "easy" to do their interviews. No TSA in the interview so it's less manpower intensive. 3) Most of those interviewing and "accepted" FROM XJT won't be getting a class date for AT LEAST 18 months from now. Again, MOST. Assuming no newhire class till Feb 2018, the CPP's from XJT that will go in Feb interviewed LAST summer/fall. |
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