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full of luv 08-17-2017 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2412456)
I wonder how much that 153 pilot pool has dwindled. February is a long way off especially considering that Feb could become even longer if they make another change again. Hard to justify another 6 months waiting on the hope they run a class in February.

DO NOT WAIT for any company. Get the first prom date you can and if a prettier girl says yes eventually, then evaluate your options.

This industry is way too fickle for anyone to put their own career advancement on hold while a particular company decides whether it needs more pilots or not.

The ONLY smart play as a pilot is to send resumes to every company you'd be happy to make a career at until one of those companies calls, and then keep updating until your precious chosen one says yes.

Oh BTW if UAL doesn't hire another pilot till March of 2018, there will be 10 others that think this timing is just perfect! It's not personal, it's business.

Monkeyfly 08-17-2017 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett (Post 2412496)
Typical United....hire right up until you furlough!


I smell a MERGER.

I guess the music has stopped at UAL

Anyone here still think Scott Kirby was hired to compete? Or believe him when he says so?

89Pistons 08-17-2017 05:24 PM

Just probably prepping for bumping DCA 777, West Coast 787 if enough 787 folks don't bid SFO 777 or DEN 756 in a future vacancy.

And closing LAX 777, IAH 777, CLE, and GUM.

jsled 08-17-2017 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2412614)
Just probably prepping for bumping DCA 777, West Coast 787 if enough 787 folks don't bid SFO 777 or DEN 756 in a future vacancy.

And closing LAX 777, IAH 777, CLE, and GUM.

IAH 777 and GUM??!! Shirley, you can't be serious?

MasterOfPuppets 08-17-2017 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2412614)
Just probably prepping for bumping DCA 777, West Coast 787 if enough 787 folks don't bid SFO 777 or DEN 756 in a future vacancy.

And closing LAX 777, IAH 777, CLE, and GUM.

And there it is the mega disaster post you said I couldn't find......I didn't even bother looking through your post history I knew you would pony up an example.

IAH 777????? Really?

Triumph 08-17-2017 06:27 PM

Between all the pilots still on some sort of furlough status that have to return sometime in 2018 and the displacements, the training dept seems pretty buried. I'd guess the company doesn't see the logic in bringing a bunch of new-hires on books and then having them sit around waiting for training. I don't think the sky is falling. Is it a let down that new pilots aren't coming on board as quickly as we would all like?.... of course. I'm going to stay cautiously optimistic (for now) that the company is just putting the existing manning where it needs to be.

Consuela 08-17-2017 07:04 PM

The story I've heard from a reasonably reliable source:

1. The company is slightly OVERstaffed but pilots aren't staffed where they need to be (IAH 777 and IAH 756, specifically).

2. A lot of "surplus" pilots from the -400.

3. TK backed up because of the bumps.

All of that along with Kirby's claim of increasing block hours without additional hiring. The sky is not falling (yet), but frustrating to see classes cancelled.

Wait a week and we'll be back too hiring 1200 this year.

89Pistons 08-17-2017 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2412629)
And there it is the mega disaster post you said I couldn't find......I didn't even bother looking through your post history I knew you would pony up an example.

IAH 777????? Really?

Mega disaster? This would just be reshuffling. A disaster would be furloughs. A mega disaster would be two furloughs. Trust me. I know. You must not. Reshuffling isn't a disaster.

Yes, IAH 777, eventually.

SUX4U 08-17-2017 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2412685)
Yes, IAH 777, eventually.

I predict all 756 bases will close, eventually! :D

Winston 08-17-2017 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 2412651)
Between all the pilots still on some sort of furlough status that have to return sometime in 2018 and the displacements, the training dept seems pretty buried. I'd guess the company doesn't see the logic in bringing a bunch of new-hires on books and then having them sit around waiting for training.

I've never understood this line of reasoning for the following reasons: training capability is fleet specific, so what does the huge load the 777/787 fleet groups have to swallow have to do with newhire training? It may indeed be that the widebody instructor ranks are being stretched to capacity, but what are the 73/Bus instructors and simulators doing other than their standard CQ business? In the last displacement I recall very few widebody FOs moving to the left seat of a narrowbody, it seemed like most just took up the same seat in the 777/787.

If anything I'd imagine the narrowbody LCA and SIM instructors are a bit bored waiting for BI classes to start running again.


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