Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > United
MEC Chairman's Message - Early Section 6 >

MEC Chairman's Message - Early Section 6

Search

Notices

MEC Chairman's Message - Early Section 6

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-20-2017 | 09:16 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Line Holder
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 926
Likes: 19
From: B777 CA
Default MEC Chairman's Message - Early Section 6

Fellow United pilots,

Yesterday, ALPA and the Company initiated a process which will allow us to open full Section 6 negotiations early. This will accelerate the current UPA timeline with the goal of having a new agreement in place prior to the UPA amendable date, January 31, 2019.

New senior leadership has brought many welcome changes to United, and this is another example of how we are reinventing the company from the ground up. Opening full Section 6 negotiations early is unprecedented at United, and both ALPA and the Company believe this is mutually beneficial. This further shows that the UAL MEC and the Company can overcome outdated and ineffective cultural barriers and move forward together in a positive new direction.

As part of these discussions, we agreed to begin by promptly addressing outstanding UPA implementation and grievance issues. This will speed up the traditional Section 6 process and allow the negotiators to focus on new items. These first steps, by the Grievance and Contract Interpretation/Administration committees, have already begun and will continue over the next few months.

In parallel to those efforts, the UAL MEC will finalize targeted negotiating goals based on pilot input gathered via the contract surveys, polling, LEC resolutions, and PDR system. The efforts you took to make sure the MEC knows your goals will now be put to use in guiding the direction for these negotiations.

After pushing relentlessly toward this goal for the last year, yesterday's meetings were an encouraging first step, and I look forward to working with senior leadership to conclude this process expeditiously. As we have shown in the past year by working together, ALPA and the Company can make United the best airline in the world for both employees and customers.


Captain Todd Insler
Master Chairman
United MEC
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 11:59 AM
  #2  
awax's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,808
Likes: 0
Default

Let the unfiltered, out-of-context public negotiations begin!

Go APC, do your thing!
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 12:06 PM
  #3  
Shrek's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
25M+ Airline Miles
15 Years
Gets Weekends Off
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,029
Likes: 101
Default

Originally Posted by awax
Let the unfiltered, out-of-context public negotiations begin!

Go APC, do your thing!
Not this guy but yeah let the tea leaf reading prognosticators begin
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 12:09 PM
  #4  
MasterOfPuppets's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 205
From: 787
Default

I think its promising that this news has been up for several hours and no one has posted a wishlist yet.
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 12:11 PM
  #5  
rightside02's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 6
From: Airbus 320 Right Seat
Default

I fear the early offering comes at some type of scope relaxing / pending order etc . I pray I am wrong.
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 12:16 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Default

Seems like a good thing - negotiating in a stable time like this rather than after some significant unforeseen event, with this management team and coming from a good (or at least widely accepted by the pilot group) contract. They want growth and have at least some kind of plan. Taking out this variable earlier for the company makes it easier to get a longer term growth plan in motion. “Hats off!” to those that worked to set this up. Pun intended.
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 03:59 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by rightside02
I fear the early offering comes at some type of scope relaxing / pending order etc . I pray I am wrong.
Nothing to fear there, the answer is NO. Next section.
Reply
Old 10-20-2017 | 04:20 PM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,159
Likes: 1
Default

The only way to have a deal in place at the amendable date is to start early. Seems logical.
Reply
Old 10-21-2017 | 07:58 AM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 705
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by baseball
The only way to have a deal in place at the amendable date is to start early. Seems logical.
They want something. Management spread the sales pitch at the domicile town halls and standards meetings knowing the lca's and standards capts will do their bidding. This has to set in to the point that pilots have mental sightings of the aircraft in United colors on the ramps of Toulouse, Everett, or third party vendors. Refurbished and ready to go. The carrot

Now comes early section 6 coinciding with a couple references to a reduction in mainline flying if their demands aren't met.
The stick.

They'll have grand plans for which RJ's are essential. Updated mainline/rj ratios will be proposed. You'll be told how much you'll benefit from approving these new ratios, and the dire outlook if you don't. They'll tell you how we can't afford to fly those planes at mainline. Really? How many of those rj flights connect passengers to high dollar international flights?

How many of you new hires were frustrated being stuck at the regionals/military for ten years or longer during the great regional experiment? How many of you are tired of seeing substandard service at the regionals? How many of you are tired of getting kicked off a jumpseat on OUR routes? Lower boarding priority on a regional flight on OUR routes? GMAB

If management does not possess the skills to operate those planes as mainline, then I guess we should shrink. It doesn't look good on their resume though. It's time to leave this profession in a better position then many of us found it.
Reply
Old 10-21-2017 | 08:01 AM
  #10  
UAL T38 Phlyer's Avatar
Moderate Moderator
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,681
Likes: 0
From: Curator at Static Display
Default

Originally Posted by Durrenstein
I think you are mistaken.

There isn't going to be an 'ALPA' at New Co.
What. The. (Coagulted fibrogen). Are. You. Talking. About?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
IMG_2721.JPG (21.4 KB, 1115 views)

Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 10-21-2017 at 08:15 AM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Crawl
CommuteAir
5416
03-21-2020 06:45 AM
TheManager
Major
9584
07-28-2015 12:15 PM
Redundant Guy
Regional
201
01-28-2013 07:06 AM
RockBottom
Major
3
09-23-2005 02:01 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices