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oldmako 11-22-2017 02:58 PM

Your bottom line. Not mine.

Happy Thanksgiving. :D

UALinIAH 11-22-2017 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by tailwheel48 (Post 2470618)
Bottom line, it's better to have more pilots at the higher rate! CAL 767 pilots were getting paid the same rate as UAL 747 pilots pre-merger. The only ruffled feathers were some of the 74 guys (and some UAL 76 pilots who were making less than their CAL counterparts) who thought they should get paid more which, at the time, was unrealistic when compared to rates across the industry.

LOL. You really are clueless.

tailwheel48 11-22-2017 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 2470652)
LOL. You really are clueless.

Really!!!???

I'm in favor of more guys getting the higher rate and I'm clueless???

MasterOfPuppets 11-22-2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by tailwheel48 (Post 2470709)
Really!!!???

I'm in favor of more guys getting the higher rate and I'm clueless???

More guys aren’t getting a higher rate. By banding the 767-400 with the 777,787,747,350 you prevented those pilots from getting higher pay. And guess what? We have ALOT more 777s and 787s and soon A350s than we do 767-400s.

Sverign is correct the company got away with paying us less. The 767-300 and 400 should be paid the same BUT less than the 787,777,350

oldmako 11-22-2017 06:20 PM

And basing ones argument by taking a snapshot of deflated (BK) wages and suggesting that pay was equal is lame. Compensation is composed of more than an hourly rate, especially one that was about to go up significantly as UA began stockpiling cash as we emerged.

I post this for the FNG's who might be tempted to swallow what he's selling. With negotiations on the horizon we need to be smart and stop selling ourselves short and accepting positions that aren't well thought out. Especially those that management just loves.

Floyd 11-22-2017 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2470637)
Your bottom line. Not mine.

Happy Thanksgiving. :D

Happy Thanksgiving Shaftmiester.

UALinIAH 11-22-2017 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by tailwheel48 (Post 2470709)
Really!!!???

I'm in favor of more guys getting the higher rate and I'm clueless???

It’s already been explained so I won’t rehash.

Jay POS sold out the group by promising to take his little red wagon and go home if everyone didn’t agree to his banding in an attempt to game the SLI. A large number of pilots held their noses and voted yes just to stop the insanity.

Now every pilot is paying the price........

oldmako 11-22-2017 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2470762)
Happy Thanksgiving Shaftmiester.

You too Mr Weller. Looks like long call and turkey for me!

And slush. ;)

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/k...-slush-2702879 Or similar. There are many others.

tailwheel48 11-23-2017 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2470738)
More guys aren’t getting a higher rate. By banding the 767-400 with the 777,787,747,350 you prevented those pilots from getting higher pay. And guess what? We have ALOT more 777s and 787s and soon A350s than we do 767-400s.

Sverign is correct the company got away with paying us less. The 767-300 and 400 should be paid the same BUT less than the 787,777,350

Seems like the UAL guys still have sour grapes about the 76-400 paying the same as the 747. And if there had been a special higher rate for the jumbonauts, they would now be taking a paycut while their plane gets sent to the junkyard and turned into beer cans.

CAL used to have three rates; narrow body, mid-body and wide body. The company wanted to pay the 767-400 the same as the mid-body but we negotiated including it at the wide-body rates. Hence more guys got paid at the higher rate. I don't understand why that is not considered a good thing? More pilots making a higher rate. I thought that was the purpose of the union!

I find it appalling that currently the 757 is paid the same as the 737, and the 767 is paid only slightly more than that. That's where the union should focus the effort, raising the 757 and 767-300 rates, not cutting the 767-400 rate.

In any event, it's all moot to me, I make the WB CA rate. But, I would like to see more pilots making the higher rate, not fewer!

And the notion that by paying the 767-400 pilots more, the other WB pilots got paid less is simply not borne out by the facts. Like it or not, Delta's first post bankruptcy contract set the bar, not the UAL negotiating committee!

KSwift76 11-23-2017 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2470769)
You too Mr Weller. Looks like long call and turkey for me!

And slush. ;)

Bourbon Slush Recipe | Katie Lee | Food Network Or similar. There are many others.

Never heard of slush, but after looking at the recipe, clearly one of the best things on this site.

Cheers!!
and Happy Thanksgiving


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