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01-04-2018 | 08:55 AM

#41

intrepidcv11

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Originally Posted by SUX4U

Because EWR 756 guys will do the day time departures back to the mainland. LAX and SFO flow more “naturally” on the all nighter segments. 😜

Apparently they flow more “naturally” on those sought after all nighters from Central America and Caribbean as well.

01-04-2018 | 09:24 AM

#42

BMEP100

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From: Tom’s Whipping boy.

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Originally Posted by Sunvox

Yeah. In all honesty if 30 years ago I understood what it meant to be a pilot in terms of years spent working night hours and holidays I would have picked a different career.

I will say - I lived on the west coast for a while and was SFO based doing JFK red-eyes.......

I grew up in an airline household. In the 50's-70's, red eyes were a very small part of any airline schedule. Most of the fleet sat on the ground at night in maintenance or repair. The same could be said euphemistically for the pilots.

I remember when Eastern started a red eye LAX-ATL departure in late 70's. Many were skeptical, but they filled the belly with mail. Seats were cheap and the flight was usually full. I got left behind a couple times on a mil stdby ticket.

I too was based in SFO in the early 80's and flew coast to coast redeys, (freight) both ways. I was senior but gave it up for daytime "airline flying". My first month on the line was doing red eyes in the 10.

01-04-2018 | 10:57 AM

#43

Zenofzin

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From: CA

Thankfully very very few red eyes on the east coast these days, I think they shafted all the SFO and LAX guys with them. Plus the 737 lost its transcons to sfo and lax to the 757/777. Red eyes are painful.

01-04-2018 | 04:38 PM

#44

WhisperJet

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I've done 1...that 0130 LAS-IAH flight. I've successfully avoided them so far. I kinda feel guilty about that. Maybe I need to pick up one or 2 so I can check that box

01-04-2018 | 05:01 PM

#45

patelam

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Originally Posted by mukalel

Doing redeyes even when you are senior for ever... respect to the freightdogs out there..

Ha! Most freight dogs dont fly nights as much as passenger airline guys, and when they do, they get a nap in a bed!

01-05-2018 | 09:37 AM

#46

Slats Extend

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You guys don't know what redeyes are.

Flying a transcon for 4.5 hours when it's dark is a piece of cake compared to flying from NRT to SFO unaugmented and having the sun come up over the middle of the Pacific with 5 more hours to go on a 10.5 hour flight.

Fortunately, those days are no more...Augmenting, CPDLC and ADS-B have transformed the job for the better.